• areyouevenreal@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    You don’t understand what I am saying do you? These issues predate the rich people we have now, and even hurt some of them. Billionaires are still bad people, but they aren’t the only problematic people in societies.

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      10 months ago

      They have a vested interest in keeping the working class divided amongst itself.

      Obviously other problematic people exist. But the wealthy are literally spending money to make sure we care more about being mad at each other than being mad at them.

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        10 months ago

        I hear this said a lot. To me it sounds like different billionaires support different causes because of what they believe and what’s in their best interest. Obviously they are against the working class; I am not trying to deny that. That doesn’t automatically mean they support bigots.

        Do you have evidence that most billionaires support bigots? If not your words are nothing but conjecture.

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          10 months ago

          It’s not about supporting bigots, and I didn’t say that. It’s almost as if you’re deliberately obfuscating the point with bullshit.

          I’m saying they’re paying for messaging with the goal of manipulating the working class in to fighting amongst itself. It’s literally the reason outlets like Fox News exist in the state they currently do.

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            10 months ago

            What percentage of billionaires support fox news or similar organizations?

            How am I obfuscating anything? You made a claim that billionaires support people who divide the working class based on things like race, gender, sexuality and so on as many others gave claimed. I asked for evidence as is my right. That seems simple enough to me.

            If you can provide the evidence then I will accept what you are saying. Until then I am not gonna take you seriously. I see no reason why billionaires wouldn’t also be divided on political lines since everyone else seems to be.

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      10 months ago

      They literally are, not because they are firsthand committing moral atrocities like murder, but because they intentionally keep structures in place that bring about moral atrocity, despite being the only people capable of changing them.