Clemson isn’t private, it’s public. It is certainly their prerogative to secure their network and their users’ data but there are definitely concerns over government censorship. I don’t think this issue is as black and white as people ITT are making it out to be and absent a larger policy stance that would van TikTok or it’s practices, I’m not sure this is the right move though I understand their position given the inaction of state and national legislatures in banning foreign spyware
They’re not banning their students from using tiktok, they’re blocking access to a website on their own networks. That is how network security works. I have many IP addresses block for many customers because some website shouldn’t be accessed on networks with PII. It’s really not that complicated.
I’m well aware - as a public university things are a bit different as they are agents of the state so this becomes a free speech issue. Also, if a university’s student internet is the same network containing PII systems like their student records, there are much bigger problems. That’s why I mentioned that this action without any legislation that would curtail Bytedance’s data collection presents a student rights conundrum. The app does not (as far as we are aware) inject or capture information from the users network but rather the user themselves which they have consented to. The larger issue is whether or not the US should allow foreign entities to collect this info and that’s not something the university should be able to decide but rather the state and federal regulatory agencies and legislatures
Because the only reason to bsn TikTok are racist reasons. Their practices have been examined closely and found to be less invasive than they rest. And Facebook, they’re horrible.
The reasons usually given are mumbled generalities but refer to China getting access to American citizen data.
“China” seems to be the common theme.
The very data for sale on the open market. It’s all bullshit.
I’m not defending TikTok and certainly not Chinese govt practices. They do evil. But no evidence of it in this instance.
I never said that shortform content is bad or that tik tok should be banned. I just couldn’t care less about the app because it just doesn’t have anything in particular that interests me. If it did I would be using tik tok and not lemmy lol. The comment above just kinda rubbed me the wrong way i guess.
facism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
I think you’d be better off just saying censorship.
Ultimately though we’ve never seen anything like this, the old school rules for what constitutes acceptable censorship might need some adjusting (especially as society learns more about what closed source algorithms made by hostile foreign powers used by the youth – and general population – of a nation can actually do to said nation).
IMHO, this isn’t s good move. I don’t have any love for TikTok but I hate fascism even more.
I’m not following. Can you elaborate a bit on how a private university banning TikTok is fascism?
Clemson isn’t private, it’s public. It is certainly their prerogative to secure their network and their users’ data but there are definitely concerns over government censorship. I don’t think this issue is as black and white as people ITT are making it out to be and absent a larger policy stance that would van TikTok or it’s practices, I’m not sure this is the right move though I understand their position given the inaction of state and national legislatures in banning foreign spyware
They’re not banning their students from using tiktok, they’re blocking access to a website on their own networks. That is how network security works. I have many IP addresses block for many customers because some website shouldn’t be accessed on networks with PII. It’s really not that complicated.
I’m well aware - as a public university things are a bit different as they are agents of the state so this becomes a free speech issue. Also, if a university’s student internet is the same network containing PII systems like their student records, there are much bigger problems. That’s why I mentioned that this action without any legislation that would curtail Bytedance’s data collection presents a student rights conundrum. The app does not (as far as we are aware) inject or capture information from the users network but rather the user themselves which they have consented to. The larger issue is whether or not the US should allow foreign entities to collect this info and that’s not something the university should be able to decide but rather the state and federal regulatory agencies and legislatures
Because the only reason to bsn TikTok are racist reasons. Their practices have been examined closely and found to be less invasive than they rest. And Facebook, they’re horrible.
The reasons usually given are mumbled generalities but refer to China getting access to American citizen data.
“China” seems to be the common theme.
The very data for sale on the open market. It’s all bullshit.
I’m not defending TikTok and certainly not Chinese govt practices. They do evil. But no evidence of it in this instance.
Is it also racist that China has banned Facebook and many other US based services?
It’s not racist but it is terrible
I do think so.
Dude, some people just prefer longer form content. To each their own.
I never said that shortform content is bad or that tik tok should be banned. I just couldn’t care less about the app because it just doesn’t have anything in particular that interests me. If it did I would be using tik tok and not lemmy lol. The comment above just kinda rubbed me the wrong way i guess.
Lol how is it fascism if you could just use your mobile data to access whatever weird social network you want?
I think you’d be better off just saying censorship.
Ultimately though we’ve never seen anything like this, the old school rules for what constitutes acceptable censorship might need some adjusting (especially as society learns more about what closed source algorithms made by hostile foreign powers used by the youth – and general population – of a nation can actually do to said nation).
It would violate my constitutional right to performing dance trends in my dining hall.