LOS ANGELES (AP) — A new California law that bans people from carrying firearms in most public places was once again blocked from taking effect Saturday as a court case challenging it continues.
A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals panel dissolved a temporary hold on a lower court injunction blocking the law. The hold was issued by a different 9th Circuit panel and had allowed the law to go into effect Jan. 1.
Saturday’s decision keeps in place a Dec. 20 ruling by U.S. District Judge Cormac Carney blocking the law. Carney said that it violates the Second Amendment and that gun rights groups would likely prevail in proving it unconstitutional.
The law, signed by Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom, prohibits people from carrying concealed guns in 26 types of places including public parks and playgrounds, churches, banks and zoos. The ban applies regardless of whether a person has a concealed carry permit.
My husband (one of the most trustworthy and responsible people I know- flaws and all) has been talking about getting a concealed-carry permit.
My argument against it, is that if there is an active shooter and he also pulls out his gun to take them out, the cops or other permit-owners might not realize that he’s the “good guy” and he (or I, if I’m nearby) could get shot instead.
He went silent, and seemed to spend a lot of time thinking about it after I’d shared my thoughts. Thus far he hasn’t tried to obtain one
Using your pistol in a mass shooting event is an edge-case of an edge-case. Even if you’re carrying, run, hide, fight is still the correct strategy. The way bigger concern is that you’ll shoot yourself or a loved one. There are things you can and should do to mitigate your accident/suicide/murder risk, but that’s really the thing you should be worried about.
Anyway, if you find yourself within shooting distance, yeah, calmly shoot back and run. The immediate threat of getting shot by the mass shooter is more pressing than potentially being misidentified as the perpetrator even just minutes later. It’s incredibly unlikely you’ll be confronted by the shooter exactly when the cops show up, making yourself a potential target.
Anyway, again, there’s loads more probable things you need to worry about when it comes to CCW than a mass shooter.
That’s true and a problem. Glad the option for CC is still available.
It’s always a risk, but the instructors have tips to mitigate this risk. Chief amongst them, and this one is for bystanders, give a description of the shooter if you’re the one calling. The police responding having at least sort of a picture can help everyone. If you see a defender give a description of them as well if possible. Second, for the defender, you are NOT obligated to stay at the scene if you feel it is unsafe. Get the hell out, holster it otw out if you’re sure there’s no second shooter, call the cops and say you had to defend yourself and you’ll turn yourself in, immediately call your lawyer, and listen to them, they’ll guide you from there. If you feel it is safe and you’re staying, same as above, holster, cops, lawyer. If there is a second shooter you are not obligated to try and kill him, but if you do it may be smarter to reholster and keep a hand on the grip simply for this exact reason (and as always don’t be stupid, peek corners, use cover, watch for trailing accomplices, etc, but a lot of that comes from a different trainer. Frankly unless you’ve taken classes beyond the bare minimum CCW that teaches what to do if you have to use it legal-wise, it may be the smarter move to not pursue if you can get to an exit.) It’s certainly something you’d have to prepare for beforehand, you can’t just go all “John Wick” without all the IDPA training Keanu actually does (and of course even then it’s a movie lol.)
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