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    11 months ago

    I believe it is a good idea, not only will it foster a closer feeling of unity and understanding between citizens, it will also be something all citizens have in common, and something you can talk about with anyone.

    I am a bit sad that I never got to do it, I did muster, but failed the hearing test, at the time I was relieved, but now, I miss it sort of.

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      11 months ago

      Being forced to risk your life for something you don’t believe in won’t create a feeling of unity.

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        11 months ago

        So you don’t believe in fighting against invasion by a foregin power?

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          In what reality would Germany ever get invaded and not deserve it?

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              They’re sending weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel. They put sanctions on Afghanistan that are causing a famine. They’re funding Frontex, which kills migrants in the Mediterranean and those who make it get put into concentration camps. And that’s just some of it. The German government are war criminals and serial human rights abusers. Anyone who takes up arms to defend these people is complicit.

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                  While I don’t know how accurate this statement is, I do wonder how you would go about doing it now, so far after the war.

                  Where would you even start?

                  What criteria would you use to determine the nazi index of every person, what index value would be the threashhold, who would decide on who is nazi and who is nice.

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                    11 months ago

                    It would be very easy just take people who use to be in the party and kick them out like they should have at the get-go. Not that it matters because they have very little animus to do so.

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                11 months ago

                Ok, I agree with ypu on some of the points, and I can see why you disagree with the actions of the military

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        11 months ago

        Technically it is true, war has created plenty of friendships that would not have existed otherwise.

        However, that is not what I wrote, I wrote that compulsory millitary service is in general a good idea and that one of benefits is unity and understanding between citizens.

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              Because you are finding a trivial benefit to something bad and pretending that’s normal. You can go be a scout, have a sports team, a million other things to have camaraderie. But no, you want the fucking military. In a time when everybody is jerking off to war and finding excuses to enact shit you want the army because friends.

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                11 months ago

                Yes you are right on all those points, but the topic was mandatory military service, not scouting, joining a sports team or a million other things.

                Is it strange that I focus on the topic of conversation and not list irrelevant topics?

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                  Neither of the other options are mandatory, and the strange thing is that you support the one that is besides being mandatory it is also deadly, if you’re in the system at the wrong time. You think that the possibility of making friends counterweights the high chance of death and life long injuries, and that’s just crazy.

                  If nobody wants to do the job, maybe the solution is to make it more attractive, instead of making it mandatory.