Maine barred Donald Trump from the primary ballot Thursday, making it the second state in the country to block the former president from running again under a part of the Constitution that prevents insurrectionists from holding office.

The decision by Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows (D) is sure to be appealed. The Colorado Supreme Court last week found Trump could not appear on the ballot in that state, and the Colorado Republican Party has asked the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case. The nation’s high court could resolve for all states whether Trump can run again.

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  • Insig@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    What does this even mean? If he allowed in all the other states and wins. Do these 2 states have to follow suit? Do they elect their own president? Are they independent for the interim?

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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      11 months ago

      You can still vote for someone not on the ballot, it’s just a means of reducing the vote

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        11 months ago

        Interesting, would you still be able to write someone’s name down if it’s not on the ballot? And could that be anyone’s name?

          • bgh251f2@lemmy.eco.br
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            11 months ago

            I wouldn’t vote for that rat. People don’t know how to vote straight, Goofy is the clear best option.

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              11 months ago

              Goofy is a terrible choice. He has voiced no concern of the safety of others and has been quoted of saying, “and I’ll fuckin do it again.”

              Despite his terrible choices and lack of surroundings both physical and political, he has also said, “Now, how come you always think I’m gonna lead you into some sort of calamity?”

              His complete disregard for the safety of others is another red flag and I, for one, will not vote for that goof.

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                11 months ago

                He’s at least a good dad.

                Maybe the rich duck then. He doesn’t seem like dishonest even though he’s rich, which means he’s bad.

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            11 months ago

            But the question is, is it still counted as a valid vote if he’s not allowed on the ballot? Doesn’t make sense to me why it would be counted

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                11 months ago

                What if two people with the same name are sort of politically active (not on ballot) and you write a name down, which one gets the vote?

                And what if I come up with a meme to vote for some random person, and people copy that and all vote for someone who unknowingly wins.

                I’m interested if they have protocols for these (unlikely, but possible) scenarios.

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                  11 months ago

                  That varies. Usually they’re expected to include distinguishers, if it’s unclear then the two candidates can end up challenging how they’re counted. It’s not unheard of that they’re split evenly but they try to look at clues. Stuff like party affiliation can be used as clues, as well as any included titles, etc.

                  If it’s a random who didn’t enter the election at all it’s likely to not count as a valid vote (especially because of your previous question where it can’t be certain all voters mean the same person with that name). If it’s a previously anonymous person with a unique name entering the election in time they’re likely to get all the votes in their name even if the voters did it as a joke and perhaps didn’t even know such a person entered. If the writing on the vote doesn’t make it clear it’s intended to be invalid it will count.

                  Also, crude measures like an even split is more common if the count of ambiguous votes are too few to change the election result, but if it’s too close then it can end up with a forced new election

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                    10 months ago

                    Very interesting, thanks! And I’d guess that if it’s like a celebrity who gets mass voted on, without him/her knowing or agreeing and wins, they could easily just say they’re not up to the task, minus peer-pressure. In theory if they’d get all the votes, the elections should be done once more.

                    But if people insist and again only vote on this celebrity, could that person explicitly upfront claim not to be a valid vote?

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            11 months ago

            There was that “against all candidates” option in Russian ballots (on various levels) before 2006.

            Usually most popular among such a big unrepresented suppressed depressed part of population as unreformed communists.

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      11 months ago

      Lincoln didn’t qualify to be on the ballot in 10 out of 11 Confederate states. In Virginia northerners were successful in getting enough signatures to get him on but he got basically no votes.