I got banned from the forums after having been considered “too combative” for not taking it lightly that a moderator lectured me on unrelated forum etiquette rules.
I wanted to discuss a legitimate technical issue, which turned out to be coil whine - at the time I did not know it was called that. A community member offered some advice, and I asked them kindly whether they would like to remove a particular question which I’ve answered in the very previous original post. They became offended by the very suggestion of this and deleted their whole reply, including the useful stuff. The moderator stepped in here and gave me a petty little lecture on all kinds of behavior norms, which I one by one refuted - to no avail, the thread just got locked.
Ok, fresh start. Let’s open another topic because I’m not here to bicker - I have an issue to discuss. The new topic got closed within 10 minutes by a mod, threatening me with a ban if I open it again.
I thought that was kinda ridiculous, because I’m a Framework customer and I want to discuss an issue with my laptop, so I opened anothe topic. Sure enough, it got closed and I got banned for a month.
A month has passed, and my problem is still there. One day when I’m browsing the interwebs to understand my issue, I stumble upon another Framework forum post discussing the same thing. My ban being lifted, I jump into the conversation and confirm that I have the same issue, and I share my story of having been banned after trying to discuss this. As you might guess, a mod appears, closes this topic as well, and states that the real reason I’ve been banned is that I have… wait for it… FREIGHT FORWARDED! And proceeds to permaban me on the spot with the notice “too combative”! What the hell, Framework!!!
I hadn’t freight forwarded and I have no possible explanation as to why this mod was jumping at me like that. Anyway, let’s take to reddit to complain about this. Quickly, a mob of zealous Framework fans forms, trampling over each other trying to lecture me that freight forwarding is prohibited etc… I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT FREIGHT FORWARDING! I was complaining about a mod accusing me of freight forwarding and banning me for this bogus reason! And guess what - eventually the thread gets shut down after inevitably devolving into a discussion of freight forwarding (to which Framework has a similarly bogus attitude, although that has changed slightly with them conceding to European single market regulations) - the Reddit thread gets locked as well and I get permabanned from the subreddit for “discussing freight forwarding”!
Ever since, I message the mods on Reddit every now and then, reminding them of the utterly crazy way they’ve been treating me, and the usual response is just a temporary mute so that I can’t message them further.
Does anyone else have a similar experience?
This is the crux of the issue. I should not be responsible for managing moderator’s emotions with cool down time. They should be, period.
edit: to clarify, I have started an entirely fresh thread. It was the moderators carrying vengeance for me. Here’s the evidence: https://community.frame.work/t/extremely-high-pitched-sound-coming-from-around-cpu/29975
As you say this is the crux of the issue. Your emotional state is coloring your ability to have a conversation constructively.
You need to cool down, and approach threads without previous emotional baggage
Here: https://community.frame.work/t/extremely-high-pitched-sound-coming-from-around-cpu/29975
I did make a fresh post, only talking about coil whine, not mentioning anything at all regarding my previous moderator interactions, IE I was not being meta. That’s my point. I was totally cool.
The moderators weren’t. That’s a problem. For you and for me. My attitude is not a real problem to anyone. You are free to abandon this conversation any time. Framework and its business policies are here to stay.
I read that as you needing the cool down time.
I didn’t need cooldown time, my follow up threads were entirely focused on the coil whine. I didn’t carry any combative attitude with me. It was the mods who didn’t cool down and shut down my further attempts to discuss the topic because of my person.
I mean, looking at your other replies here? You’re combative and need cool down time. Maybe try logging out for a few days to clear your head.
You can’t even hold a conversation of short, written sentences and you’re saying I need to clear my head? Someone needs to look into the mirror. You were the one who said you read @jet@hackertalks.com’s remark of “cooldown time” as me needing cooldown time, and I’m letting you know that I didn’t need cooldown time because I was completely cool and started a new thread entirely on topic. Now you’re confusing your own sentence of having interpreted “needing cooldown time” to me in the past with stating it now about me in the present. It’s ridiculous how instantly you turn to demeaning ad hominem remarks once you identify someone as a bad person.
You’re nitpicking and arguing with other comments you disagree with. That’s combative.
This reads like you’re emotionally invested in this quite heavily, and you’re having a hard time seeing other perspectives. Take a day or two to walk away, then come back when you’re in a more regulated space and try to read the original comments here again and reflect on things within your locus of control: your actions and your response to your emotions.
I hope you can see the kindness of the many people here trying to help you. ♥️
Edit: In a couple days, try again to read to understand, not reading to find the mistakes/problems.
So what if I’m combative? How does that affect your life? Something about my story is irking people, and it’s all too easy to project it onto my combative behavior. I say it’s indeed the way Framework is subtly but obscenely overstepping boundaries. Can’t do anything about this message? A rational first reaction is to hate the messenger. <3
Presumably, you’re here to ask for feedback about these events, and the feedback is that it sounds like everyone else has acted reasonably, based on the limited information presented, and that you likely were out of line.
That’s exactly what I was saying. You need to stop fighting battles online. Each post should have a clear conscience, no emotional baggage from previous post with different people. You don’t need to fight every fight. Just focus on the post topic. No need to sling mud, or try to re-litigate previous moderation decisions