• Squizzy@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Ok this is very sensationalist.

    The government did not speak to the local community before they agreed to house 70 foreign nationals in their village which has a population under 400.

    The accommodation is not fit for purpose, with only 18 rooms.

    The local area does not have a regular bus service, and the hotel is about a 40 minute walk bad roads to get the stop that will bring you to the city. That costs about €8 of the €38 they get a week.

    As per usual over here we are aware of a problem and how to fix it and can’t seem to marry the two. I have no doubt there were right wings fools at this blockade but to flag it as a sinister turn in Ireland’s anti immigrant positioning is not looking at the big picture.

    The government does not build housing, during a housing and immigrant crisis. They are putting these people in the middle of nowhere without a plan. This is not the beginning of this crisis, the government could have made significant progress in temporary accomodation construction on any number of the Greenfield and brownfield sites they own but they haven’t.

    This hotel has been out of service for years, there is nothing local, and the people were not informed before this decision was made. It’s not anti immigrating, it’s the results of disenfranchisement and an arrogant populist government.

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        11 months ago

        Yes, that is how you solve the problem of too many refugees being in one area. You burn down what little they have and then go on the internet to take issue with the tone of how it is reported not the arson itself.

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          11 months ago

          To be fair, I don’t think anyone had moved in there yet.

          There is nothing new here. There has always been a vocal, violent, right leaning minority in Irish society. There have been two instances that have made headlines around the world in the past few weeks that may make it seem like Irish society in general is leaning further to the right. I hope this isn’t true.

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            11 months ago

            This is part of my issue, it gives a bigger voice than deserved to the right.

            This is a failing in communication by the government that exasperated a festering issue when it could have been avoided.

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          11 months ago

          Well for one I didn’t do this so I didn’t “then go on the Internet”.

          My point is that they didn’t get any other avenues to resolve the situation of too many refugees in tiny village with a low population.

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                11 months ago

                Because you won’t fucking address it. You posted an entire screed praising the brave work of freedom fighting arsonists against a government that horror upon upon horrors put some non-white people in a town fleeing their homeland. So until you address you BFFs who quite literally burned down a place for refugees people are going to continue ask you to address it.

                It is like that old Kids in the Hall sketch where a guy takes issue with being called a murderer not because he didn’t commit murder but because no one is mentioning all the times he didn’t commit murder.

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        I’m taking issue with the implication being this is a right wing turn against foreign nationals and not a result of piss poor communication from a shit government.

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            11 months ago

            I mean as a form of protest against throwing immigrants in the middle of nowhere without a proper plan, in a tiny town that likely can’t support them…Yeah, why not? Not exactly the most ideal plan, but hey, it makes people pay attention.

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            11 months ago

            I don’t understand why you think this is a good point or worth saying, I didn’t defend burning it down.

            Do you struggle with reading?

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              11 months ago

              Maybe because everyone can see how you are trying misdirection and taking issue with the wording of the headline instead of the arson of a refugee center. My response to hearing that someone burned down a building full of refugees is not “well really it is the government’s fault also they aren’t telling the arsonist’s side of things”.

              Governments are as a general rule incompetent, that isn’t an excuse for fucking arson

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                I’m not defending the arsonists, the right wing bullshit I’m providing more information about this to explain why this has happened.

                It also wasn’t full or even occupied, maybe you could do with more information.

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                    They are to blame you moron, I’m giving additional information do you want me to rethread the same information also?

                    You the one who is spouting clear bullshit here.

                    Context isn’t a rant, I realise that you might think it because you seemingly only want to be told your view is perfect as it is.

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                You accuse someone of misdirection and then outright lie yourself. Noone burned down a building full of refugees.

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                    11 months ago

                    I kinda do and kinda don’t. I am curious what things went wrong in a person’s life that thinks a solution to people of a different race, who are also refugees, being given help is arson. I also don’t quite want to get in the mind of the terrorist apologist.

                    You know it’s like when you see a big car accident, you want to see it and don’t at once.

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      11 months ago

      Also worth mentioning that Ross Lake Hotel was recently sold and I heard the new owner was going to be converting it back into a single house. I wouldn’t be surprised if the new owner decided that was going to be harder than he thought. The timing of it all is very suspect