I’m talking about programs like life after hate or those exit programs in Europe.
Why would people be against them
That’s the question, though, isn’t it?
nazis would obviously be against them, but how else are they bad?
This is the first I’ve heard of them, but if they end up serving more as nazi networking than nazi deradicalization I would be against them.
Some view anything less than outright shunning as coddling these viewpoints.
At first glance, it sounds uncomfortably similar to a “reeducation camp”
Reeducation camps are not voluntary, these groups are voluntary ones; there is nothing wrong with helping people to leave their cults when they show interest in leaving.
At first glance you sound like a Nazi
Let’s not jump down people’s throats that quick.
We can be better than reddit here. Try giving the benefit of the doubt and assuming good faith.
I don’t give good faith to literal Nazis. Like come on. Oh no, not being allowed to be a Nazi is an attack on my free speech. Fuck off with that bullshit.
No u
There, happy?
Nah. I’m not happy with Nazis existing. I’m not going to apologize for shitting on someone who literally made an argument against anti Nazism. But keep trying bud. Maybe one day the proud boys will accept you if you just keep trying.
I think people (especially people in communities directly affected by nazi violence) don’t have any obligation to be involved, or to “forgive” somebody who wants to escape certain patterns of thought, but I can’t find any argument against it that fits in my moral compass. Nazism shouldn’t exist but I’m not so jaded as to think that violence is the ONLY way to combat it
I’d hope they work but I’ve seen too many “former” nazis get criticized for still holding some terrible views then immediately throw a tantrum and run back to the far-right because they don’t actually want to take accountability they want to get coddled by the same minorities they hurt and be told how clever and brave they are for no longer being bigots.
Yes, because the ultimately didn’t get rid of the root of the problem and so they go back to their ways. Very similar to how a person who doesn’t do rehab correctly or had a bad experience with it will go back to using drugs when things get hard because that’s their coping mechanism.
They need to have better coping mechanisms.
The exit program in Germany for example has a 3% recidivism rate. Not too bad.
Wow that’s way better than I expected. Guess it makes sense Germany would take that sort of thing more seriously.
It’s hard work and I’m glad someone out there is willing to do it.
Assuming it doesn’t involve invading a neighboring country, resulting in the deaths of thousands of civilians, then it’s all good with me, though I’ll admit I don’t know a whole lot about these programs.
