#OOR23 shows how difficult it is for renters to find affordable housing. Find out how much a renter must earn to afford a modest home at https://nlihc.org/oor
This site has these sorts of stats for each state.
Exactly. One side openly embraces fascism, while the other side actively fights progressive voices. If there’s one thing I hate about voting Democrat, it’s that every time progressives try to actually get power, and try to do something positive, for real people, the Establishment members of the party just drown them out with more money.
Centrist democrats love to guilt and shame progressives any time progressives try to leverage their support in order to get anything they want.
Even if it’s just the slightest shift or adjustment, the center left seems to always go right to “oh so you’d rather the Republicans win if you can’t get your way? This is bigger than you. You need to put your selfish wants aside and just support the things we want. Maybe after we get all the things we want and have all the power, maybe then we can consider some of your priorities, but until then, we’re entitled to all your votes and support simply by virtue of being slightly less opposed to you than the conservatives”.
The whole point of a federal government is so that states don’t have the ability to rob people of their labor, but since Democrats don’t do their job when they have power, there are tens of millions of Americans who are.
So why do we have thousands of people living on the streets in my state that’s been solidly blue for over 40 years? Take your blinders off already because you are engaging in the same behavior as MAGA supporters: blind allegiance.
We have out of control housing costs. Nothing, including this, will be solved with divided federal govt (one party currently controlled by deranged, fascist cult). Those homeless know they’re safer in certain areas, and many more are literally shipped there by R’s (that’s their “solution” by the way).
There will always be problems to fix, but at least I can count on D’s to be mostly reasonable and rational, and do their fucking jobs and solve the problems (eventually, even with massive R obstruction).
So costs are out of control, but wages are at an appropriate level? That doesn’t really make much sense logically. The actual values don’t matter as much as the disparity between the two. If the minimum wage were $100/hr, a house costing $400k wouldn’t be an issue. Similarly, if the minimum wage were $2/hr while homes cost $8k, that also wouldn’t be an issue.
Sure Democrats aren’t good but if you think they are remotely as bad as Republicans… I’m sorry, you’re just really, REALLY fucking stupid if you think that.
God this really sounds like the kind of talk that spouses of abusers use.
Like I get it. I really do understand there is worse but like “yeah but he doesn’t leave me bleeding on the floor and usually tells me why it was my fault he had to hit me and then bandages me up!” Makes anyone sane agasp in horror.
It’s a shitty take to support an abuser because they could be worse. Even though I get it when stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Edit: just because you are used to your own brand of abuse doesn’t mean the other side doesn’t see it. And even if they have normalized a worse abuser doesn’t mean it goes away when you try to hold moral high ground.
It gets better by trying to prove to be better. Not just different. I’m an easy face to punch at because I’m just calling out why you being angry that people won’t agree with you won’t help make them agree with you any more.
One is trying to kill you. One just wants your wallet.
It’s not my fault if you’re so stupid that you end up bleeding out on the floor. Do not take the rest of us with you because you are too stupid to see one has worse intent.
No one with their head on straight is happy to vote for a Democrat, but if you want the clown with a knife that will shank you over the businessman who wants to short your 401k, then have fun bleeding out on the floor.
It’s not my fault if you’re so stupid that you end up bleeding out on the floor. Do not take the rest of us with you because you are too stupid to see one has worse intent.
Woah. That’s a great way to show empathy there. Definitely how you get people in your side.
I never said I want to support evil people but ignoring the blatant cruelty is just plain abhorrent. You decided I was against you because I pointed out the abuse. I also think the only option at the moment is Democrats but I’m just not willing to ignore reality of the mild abuse and keep it mind as we try to move forward. You decide to be cruel and claim everyone has it coming. We are in this together so get to understanding that you don’t escape it just because you don’t care.
I’m not trying to be your friend. Stop trying to make appeals to civility when the problem is how close-minded and ignorant you are.
I am NOT saying everyone has it coming. I’m saying, “but they’re still bad tho” is a fucking utterly stupid and defeatist attitude. We KNOW Democrats aren’t good. That doesn’t magically make it a wash where Republicans need to be humored in any way what so ever.
That only means there is a lot more work to do after the fascists are cast out of power. That DOES NOT mean we act like it’s a wash between the two.
Dont start that “both sides are the same” shit.
Both sides are not the same. However, both sides are terrible. One just more so than the other.
Exactly. One side openly embraces fascism, while the other side actively fights progressive voices. If there’s one thing I hate about voting Democrat, it’s that every time progressives try to actually get power, and try to do something positive, for real people, the Establishment members of the party just drown them out with more money.
Centrist democrats love to guilt and shame progressives any time progressives try to leverage their support in order to get anything they want.
Even if it’s just the slightest shift or adjustment, the center left seems to always go right to “oh so you’d rather the Republicans win if you can’t get your way? This is bigger than you. You need to put your selfish wants aside and just support the things we want. Maybe after we get all the things we want and have all the power, maybe then we can consider some of your priorities, but until then, we’re entitled to all your votes and support simply by virtue of being slightly less opposed to you than the conservatives”.
Would be cool if the worst of those two consistently lost, so they would have to change things around.
No they’re saying that the two party system ensures that you guys can never change anything.
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The minimum wage has been seven bucks since 2008.
That seems pretty ‘both sides are the same’ to me.
Federally. Which states have higher? I’ll give you one guess
Yeah, this is the usual argument.
The whole point of a federal government is so that states don’t have the ability to rob people of their labor, but since Democrats don’t do their job when they have power, there are tens of millions of Americans who are.
And I’m not willing to make excuses for them.
Lol they literally do the job when they have power… The states prove that. Whatever dummy, bye
So why do we have thousands of people living on the streets in my state that’s been solidly blue for over 40 years? Take your blinders off already because you are engaging in the same behavior as MAGA supporters: blind allegiance.
We have out of control housing costs. Nothing, including this, will be solved with divided federal govt (one party currently controlled by deranged, fascist cult). Those homeless know they’re safer in certain areas, and many more are literally shipped there by R’s (that’s their “solution” by the way).
There will always be problems to fix, but at least I can count on D’s to be mostly reasonable and rational, and do their fucking jobs and solve the problems (eventually, even with massive R obstruction).
So costs are out of control, but wages are at an appropriate level? That doesn’t really make much sense logically. The actual values don’t matter as much as the disparity between the two. If the minimum wage were $100/hr, a house costing $400k wouldn’t be an issue. Similarly, if the minimum wage were $2/hr while homes cost $8k, that also wouldn’t be an issue.
Since when does minimum wage fix mental illness?
Sure Democrats aren’t good but if you think they are remotely as bad as Republicans… I’m sorry, you’re just really, REALLY fucking stupid if you think that.
God this really sounds like the kind of talk that spouses of abusers use.
Like I get it. I really do understand there is worse but like “yeah but he doesn’t leave me bleeding on the floor and usually tells me why it was my fault he had to hit me and then bandages me up!” Makes anyone sane agasp in horror.
It’s a shitty take to support an abuser because they could be worse. Even though I get it when stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Edit: just because you are used to your own brand of abuse doesn’t mean the other side doesn’t see it. And even if they have normalized a worse abuser doesn’t mean it goes away when you try to hold moral high ground.
It gets better by trying to prove to be better. Not just different. I’m an easy face to punch at because I’m just calling out why you being angry that people won’t agree with you won’t help make them agree with you any more.
One is trying to kill you. One just wants your wallet.
It’s not my fault if you’re so stupid that you end up bleeding out on the floor. Do not take the rest of us with you because you are too stupid to see one has worse intent.
No one with their head on straight is happy to vote for a Democrat, but if you want the clown with a knife that will shank you over the businessman who wants to short your 401k, then have fun bleeding out on the floor.
Woah. That’s a great way to show empathy there. Definitely how you get people in your side.
I never said I want to support evil people but ignoring the blatant cruelty is just plain abhorrent. You decided I was against you because I pointed out the abuse. I also think the only option at the moment is Democrats but I’m just not willing to ignore reality of the mild abuse and keep it mind as we try to move forward. You decide to be cruel and claim everyone has it coming. We are in this together so get to understanding that you don’t escape it just because you don’t care.
I’m not trying to be your friend. Stop trying to make appeals to civility when the problem is how close-minded and ignorant you are.
I am NOT saying everyone has it coming. I’m saying, “but they’re still bad tho” is a fucking utterly stupid and defeatist attitude. We KNOW Democrats aren’t good. That doesn’t magically make it a wash where Republicans need to be humored in any way what so ever.
That only means there is a lot more work to do after the fascists are cast out of power. That DOES NOT mean we act like it’s a wash between the two.
Ah I see. It’s the democrats fault that deep republican states take advantage of their citizens. It was the Dems all along!
/s. It’s depressing that people actually think this way.
You should consider going back to college. Or just going to college. Or just reading a single book.