you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent
I agree this is the current law. But I certainly don’t agree with this law. Do you?
I feel people should absolutely be allowed to consent to death, or potential death. And I mean, we already can in various other contexts like skiing in avalanche terrain, ordering too many big macs, or medically assisted suicide to prevent suffering from incurable conditions (at least in a few civilized places).
You’re talking to someone whose wife died 4 months ago (at 34 years old), from one of those incurable conditions. I’ll let you guess how I feel about allowing people to end their life on their terms.
I’m confident you strongly support allowing it as I have never met someone who witnessed a loved one suffer like that and does not support lessening their suffering.
So since you support allowing people to end their own lives in that context, you understand that people can indeed consent to death. So perhaps consenting to death should be permitted in other contexts too. That’s the only point I was making.
The same way we assure people consenting to anything at all are not being forced to. We try our best basically. And sometimes we’ll probably get it wrong and need to improve. I’m completely ok with that when the alternative is guaranteed preventable suffering. Just like I’m ok with people using power of attorney to protect the finances of people with dementia, even if sometimes it gets misapplied.
The difference is that it’s consensual, you libtard.
Now try not to think about those monkeys we’re testing the product on and whether it was consensual for them.
/s if it wasn’t obvious
Just because you have someone’s consent, doesn’t make whatever you do to them legal.
For example, you can sign a contract to allow me to bludgeon you to death, but it’s still murder regardless of your consent.
Frankly, Elon has killed enough animals in this endeavor that it’s unconscionable to allow him to test it on people. It’s only going to end poorly.
I agree this is the current law. But I certainly don’t agree with this law. Do you?
I feel people should absolutely be allowed to consent to death, or potential death. And I mean, we already can in various other contexts like skiing in avalanche terrain, ordering too many big macs, or medically assisted suicide to prevent suffering from incurable conditions (at least in a few civilized places).
Yeah we have that in Canada, you can choose to end it with doctor help via the MAID program. Lets people die with dignity.
You’re talking to someone whose wife died 4 months ago (at 34 years old), from one of those incurable conditions. I’ll let you guess how I feel about allowing people to end their life on their terms.
I’m confident you strongly support allowing it as I have never met someone who witnessed a loved one suffer like that and does not support lessening their suffering.
So since you support allowing people to end their own lives in that context, you understand that people can indeed consent to death. So perhaps consenting to death should be permitted in other contexts too. That’s the only point I was making.
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I understand your point. I think people should be able to consent to that, but how do you assure they don’t do this because they get forced to agree?
The same way we assure people consenting to anything at all are not being forced to. We try our best basically. And sometimes we’ll probably get it wrong and need to improve. I’m completely ok with that when the alternative is guaranteed preventable suffering. Just like I’m ok with people using power of attorney to protect the finances of people with dementia, even if sometimes it gets misapplied.
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The first one might suck but can be solved by either working under the table or with underhanded tactics, not super easy but doable.
For the second one, it’s much easier, !shoplifting@slrpnk.net can help you.
That’s just how science works.
The good far outweighs the evil.
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