Musk has previously called the Swedish strike “insane”. His company has stood by its policy of not agreeing to collective bargaining and said that its employees in Sweden already have similar terms to what their union has called for.
He still doesn’t get it, does he?
Having a union agreement is not about the compensation. It’s about the right to negotiate the working terms.
His employees everywhere, do not have the right to negotiate anything.
They do not have similar terms, even if he pays more and makes pizza parties. It’s not about that at all.
It’s not about money. He has enough of that. The Swedish employees have enough of that. It doesn’t matter what the compensation is. It’s all about the rights to have a say in your own employment. He won’t give that away, because he wants to rule like a dictator.
I hope that some day he will understand it. But I will not be disappointed if he decides to fuck off out of Europe altogether, because he’s not at all fit to run a company here.
There are no class differences! You’re not workers, you’re the same as me, the billionaire emerald mine kid. Why would you make yourself feel less by being in some kind of lords-and-peasants union? Wow I’m so smart!!
Fuck I hate this piece as shit and I hope he just dies soon.
If I remember correctly, the whole thing started because Tesla mechanics don’t have a legally binding health and safety code. In Sweden, there is no national health and safety legislation, and it must be negotiated with a union to be legally binding.
It is possible for an employer to have an occupational insurance without a collective agreement.
It’s also possible to have a occupational safety representative without a collective agreement. It’s actually legally required on all workplaces that employ 5 or more people, which is how it often starts.
Doing it right without a collective agreement… not so easy.
Also, Sweden has sector codes for different types of business. These main sector agreements determine the minimum terms, even for companies that do not have an agreement.
It only makes sense for Tesla as well as any other employer to participate in this, because without an agreement, they’ll always be behind the sector and dependent on what other companies negotiate.
All in all, it’s better for the company to play along the local conventions. It’s a recipe for disaster to attempt to go by minimum legislation. It’ll always be uphill and the costs of lawsuits will be more than doing things right in the first place and the costs of not being to attract qualified personal are unfathomable. The key is to let people do what they do best. Work. By pretending to be the all knowing mastermind Musk is doing the company a disfavor. He is not acting in the best interest of the company at all.
In the context of this article, being Danish and having funds in pensions, I know that the pension fund has only one thing in mind: Money. They don’t care about workers or the environment or anything else. F.i. These pension funds are still investing in fossil fuels because they believe they have an option to change those for the better.
He’s acting against the interest of the company. The shareholders ought to fire him, but they can’t because he has a magic majority rule in the company that allows him to control it with a minority of the shares.
They tried in 2016. They should try again.
Well, in the long run, yes, a company will run better when employees are enabled to do their best. But in the short term, that doesn’t always translate to increased profits this quarter, which is why it’s not always what happens.
Maybe so. I think it’s more a matter of company owners having to educate themselves instead of playing God towards their employees.
It’s becomes very evident when you look into psychological interactions in companies. It seems soo unnecessary - until you look at the results. Companies that actively work to prevent demotivating behaviour also produce better results at the bottom of their financial statements.
Just similar to how violent behaviour resulted in people not working due to broken arms, demotivating behaviour stops employees from doing the job well. You can see it in the contemporary term “Silent quitting” which is a result of poor management. People do minimum work because they are only motivated to as they’re told and don’t get a say in how they do it.
Firmly no. To your last sentence. Unions don’t just exist to push the price of labour. Unions exist because one man alone can easily be replaced with another poor shit worker.
Unions exist because serious workers actually like doing their job well.
Firmly no. To your last sentence. Unions don’t just exist to push the price of labour. Unions exist because one man alone can easily be replaced with another poor shit worker.
He still doesn’t get it, does he?
Having a union agreement is not about the compensation. It’s about the right to negotiate the working terms.
His employees everywhere, do not have the right to negotiate anything.
They do not have similar terms, even if he pays more and makes pizza parties. It’s not about that at all.
It’s not about money. He has enough of that. The Swedish employees have enough of that. It doesn’t matter what the compensation is. It’s all about the rights to have a say in your own employment. He won’t give that away, because he wants to rule like a dictator.
I hope that some day he will understand it. But I will not be disappointed if he decides to fuck off out of Europe altogether, because he’s not at all fit to run a company here.
And he said
By not having unions, he exactly creates the lords-and-peasants kind of thing.
There are no class differences! You’re not workers, you’re the same as me, the billionaire emerald mine kid. Why would you make yourself feel less by being in some kind of lords-and-peasants union? Wow I’m so smart!!
Fuck I hate this piece as shit and I hope he just dies soon.
Haha fuck he said that? The only way that could even make sense is if he views them as something lower than peasants
If I remember correctly, the whole thing started because Tesla mechanics don’t have a legally binding health and safety code. In Sweden, there is no national health and safety legislation, and it must be negotiated with a union to be legally binding.
It is possible for an employer to have an occupational insurance without a collective agreement. It’s also possible to have a occupational safety representative without a collective agreement. It’s actually legally required on all workplaces that employ 5 or more people, which is how it often starts.
Doing it right without a collective agreement… not so easy.
Also, Sweden has sector codes for different types of business. These main sector agreements determine the minimum terms, even for companies that do not have an agreement.
It only makes sense for Tesla as well as any other employer to participate in this, because without an agreement, they’ll always be behind the sector and dependent on what other companies negotiate.
All in all, it’s better for the company to play along the local conventions. It’s a recipe for disaster to attempt to go by minimum legislation. It’ll always be uphill and the costs of lawsuits will be more than doing things right in the first place and the costs of not being to attract qualified personal are unfathomable. The key is to let people do what they do best. Work. By pretending to be the all knowing mastermind Musk is doing the company a disfavor. He is not acting in the best interest of the company at all.
In the context of this article, being Danish and having funds in pensions, I know that the pension fund has only one thing in mind: Money. They don’t care about workers or the environment or anything else. F.i. These pension funds are still investing in fossil fuels because they believe they have an option to change those for the better.
They do not have a shed of hope for Musk.
He understands, that’s why he’s against it
X - doubt
He’s acting against the interest of the company. The shareholders ought to fire him, but they can’t because he has a magic majority rule in the company that allows him to control it with a minority of the shares. They tried in 2016. They should try again.
Preventing employees from negotiating helps companies
He just assumes workers will give in because they always have previously
Wrong. Enabling employees to do their best is what helps companies.
Demotivating them by having uncertainty and nonnegotiable terms is bad for the company.
One man can not know what is required for a hundred men to work efficiently
It’s megalomania for him to think that he knows best, and even if he did, for him to think that he could communicate what is best.
Musk has 110000 employees worldwide, but he still pretends to know exactly what each and everyone should be doing. No chance in hell.
Well, in the long run, yes, a company will run better when employees are enabled to do their best. But in the short term, that doesn’t always translate to increased profits this quarter, which is why it’s not always what happens.
You are too idealistic for an actual conversation
If what you said was true then there would be no need for unions
Maybe so. I think it’s more a matter of company owners having to educate themselves instead of playing God towards their employees.
It’s becomes very evident when you look into psychological interactions in companies. It seems soo unnecessary - until you look at the results. Companies that actively work to prevent demotivating behaviour also produce better results at the bottom of their financial statements.
Just similar to how violent behaviour resulted in people not working due to broken arms, demotivating behaviour stops employees from doing the job well. You can see it in the contemporary term “Silent quitting” which is a result of poor management. People do minimum work because they are only motivated to as they’re told and don’t get a say in how they do it.
Firmly no. To your last sentence. Unions don’t just exist to push the price of labour. Unions exist because one man alone can easily be replaced with another poor shit worker.
Unions exist because serious workers actually like doing their job well.
Which companies do because….
It benefits them
Only in the short term. It’s not sustainable against competitors who does otherwise.
I don’t care whether he ever understands it, but I’m totally on board with the “fuck off” part.