Sean “Diddy” Combs was accused in a lawsuit on Wednesday of gang-raping a 17-year-old girl in 2003, marking the fourth sexual assault allegation lodged against the producer in recent weeks.
The plaintiff, identified as Jane Doe, alleges that she was flown on a private jet from Michigan to Combs’ recording studio in New York, where she was raped by three people, including Combs and Harve Pierre, the president of Bad Boy Entertainment.
According to the suit, Combs and his associates plied her with “copious amounts” of drugs and alcohol. The suit alleges that Combs raped her over a bathroom sink while she went in and out of consciousness, and that Combs then watched as a third man also raped her.
Look, I’m sorry, but I’m beginning to think this guy’s a real jerk.
y’all think he did it? I’m starting to think he did it.
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She was underage at the time.
Yeah, I think she was 17.
Is that what you would do?
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Seventeen year olds can’t consent. They’re incapable under the law. So even if she was into it, she literally couldn’t say yes. So it’s rape.
If that’s something you disagree with, then work to get the law changed. But until that, they’re rapists and don’t blame the victim.
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Therapy might help with everything you said.
I think going outside would help you understand better.
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This is straight up incorrect. 17 is the age of consent in New York, and many other states are 16. A minority of states have 18 as the age of consent.
I agree it’s fucked up for an adult and a teen to be together, but this is a law we’re talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
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I wasn’t talking about the law.
I had sex at 17 with an adult and have 0 regrets. It’s pretty normal. I think I would’ve had more regrets if I refrained from doing it because people like you think that’s what I should do, lol.
To put things into perspective and why it’s always good to talk specifics, I was 17 and she was 20. I guess she’s a shitty person who raped me and should be in prison, lol. We ended up being together for years, it was a great relationship :)
But I guess from your ‘logic’, if this occurred in a different jurisdiction (or if I had waited 2 months for my 18th birthday,) then she would be off the hook for any and all judgement.
It’s funny watching you people always pivot to the law as though every law is just and people are good based on how well they obey laws.
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Unfortunately there are still states where like 16 and 15 are the ages of consent
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I saw your deleted reply; no I don’t think it’s appropriate, see my comment.
First off: there is no federal age of consent law. You weren’t “going off” anything.
What you said is factually untrue. You’d see that with a quick search. That’s all I’m saying.
No, I don’t think it’s appropriate. It is, however fucked up, still legal.
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I mean, having sex with people of certain ages is illegal for a reason so it doesn’t actually matter if she was “willing” if she was under the age of consent. Also, drugging a person removes their ability to make an informed decision to consent so again, even if she did agree to it, her consent wasn’t valid on that point either. In other words, she wasn’t capable of consenting so, ya know, rape.
I’m not talking about convicting the perpetrator. Please stop assuming, lol.
Legally speaking, there is no ambiguity.
But in reality, there is. If you can’t understand that, it’s probably because you don’t want to.
Fuck off with that shit.
You know, everyone keeps saying “the worst part is the hypocrisy,” but I disagree. I think the worst part was the raping.
(I feel kind of bad making this joke in this thread, but on the other hand… Norm. So…)
Big F to my boy Norm
Thats a bit premature /s
Like the Snoop Dogg case, I assume this will also be dropped sooner rather than later.
It’s very hard to prosecute these historical cases, and going against someone this famous is doubly horrific for the victims, so I doubt he’ll ever see justice.
Hope she at least gets a payout. And that 50 cent goes ahead with his documentary about it all, so the guy is thoroughly shunned for the rest of his life.
I missed the thing about 50 doing a documentary, and it’s more fun to talk to humans than just Google something so… What’s going on with that?
They’ve openly disliked each other for years. Rumour is that 50 Cent’s production company is now making a documentary about the sexual assault allegations, although 50 hasn’t cofirmed or denied it yet.
I don’t know rap as much as some, but I have this sneaking suspicion 50 Cent is about to get shot again.
Yes, but he’s built up a tolerance over the years, it probably won’t affect him too much.
Bro is like gasoline, unleaded.
TIL getting shot is like a vaccination against bullets.
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Damn, I’d give that a watch.
wouldn’t it be weird if fiddy came out the hero in all that early 'aught rap?
Three 6 will be the last two walking
Rumor is it will be titled "Surviving Diddy. "
This is his fourth case.
So at the very least the woman in this fourth case has a shot at some kind of justice.
This is a civil case, which has a lower standard of proof.
I thought he told you that he won’t stop
This was at the bottom, and I had left the thread before I realized what I glimpsed. My god friend, well done.
My brother in Christ, truer words have never been written.
He’s gone downhill ever since Donkey Kong took the spotlight back from him
It’s wild that you can bring these lawsuits 20 years later. How is he supposed to defend himself when the Jane Doe only needs a preponderance of evidence? How can he produce an alibi after so long? Is there corroboration? I don’t know how I feel about these super-old lawsuits.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/preponderance of the evidence
I’m with you on this. Evidence should be required before any person on this planet is subject to infamy, time in a cage, or death.
The investigation should be quiet until evidence is collected that is sufficient for a charge in the first place.
I don’t know this man, I’m not a fan of his work, there is no bias in me for or against him. When we’re talking about upending a persons life, evidence should be everything.
Makeing the accusations public can help gather converting evidence. People will know if they have some information in support or defence of the allegations that they can come forward.
It also makes it easier for others that have been a victim of a similar crime by the accused and his associates. It’s likely if this crime happened, it happened more than once and to many victims.
Correct. That’s why there’s a process called “discovery”. The plaintiff brings their evidence to the table. The judge spends time deciding if the evidence is sufficient enough to go to court.
You’re right, but at the same time publicity can make other victims come forward.
If there’s something that needs to change, it’s the media’s fervent need to tell us what they did and paint people as monsters, but at the same time not really caring when they’re found innocent. There isn’t really a way back to that initial state for anyone involved.
I knew a man personally who was accused by a 7 year old girl and had cases in two states. We live right on the border and his property is actually in both states.
Front page of the local paper (serving an area of 56,000 people) blasted him and posted his picture for everyone to see.
He was step related to the child and cared for many children in the neighborhood. The mom regularly got money from him until he found out she was blowing it on drugs. Fortunately for him, she threatened him with it more than once and after the first time he decided to record all calls with her. He passed a polygraph, details of the story kept changing, and families of the other children he kept went with him to court or wrote letters on his behalf.
He was found innocent in both states by a jury.
He died a few years back. Everywhere he went he was treated like a disease. The newspaper didn’t bother to put his innocence on the front page. They sold their papers.
One of the last times I talked to him he said, “Everywhere I go people whisper. They’ll small talk and smile, and then as soon as I walk away they talk about what a monster I am. Even people who know how it went in court all think, “What if he just got lucky? Don’t let him around your kids.” It’s a lonely life and I can’t wait until it ends.”
I absolutely hate to know that people are victims of such horrible and life altering crimes, but I firmly believe that if there’s evidence to convict someone and they end up convicted, victims will still come forward then.
I feel the same way in other situations. For example, I’d rather see 100,000 murderers free and smiling than see one innocent man sitting in prison for a murder he didn’t commit.
Once a person has that label, there’s nothing left for them. For an innocent person, that is a crime if you ask me.
Remember when Diddy shot the guy in the club and gave his gun to JLo so he wouldn’t get a murder/attempted murder charge?
Or that time when he threatened to blow us Kid Cudi’s car, then someone blew up Kid Cudi’s car? Sounds like there needs to be some more investigation here.
Or that time when he threatened to blow us
Hey, then maybe I can get a lawsuit going too?
R Kelly -> Chris Brown -> Pee Diddley -> Kanye
When will it end?
When we stop celebrating narcissists and start punishing them for shitty behavior before they get this far.
he’s undoubtedly guilty, but it’s been 20 years - why didnt she come forward earlier? the statute of limitations has probably lapsed
This is probably related to NY recently changing their rules regarding civil suits for sexual assault. The same change that prompted the Trump case.
I’m sure for a 17 year old in 2003, going after someone so wealthy and powerful seemed insurmountable. But the rule change seems to be allowing some victims to finally get some form of resitution.
Can you elaborate on what this rule change is or give me some information to research and learn more?
It’s called the New York’s Adult Survivors Act. Here’s an article about it: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/11/24/adult-survivors-act-diddy-jamie-foxx-sexual-assault-new-york/71693294007/
Wow, thanks for sharing this.
I had no idea they had a ‘1 year window’ to report claims. That’s fucked up and I’m genuinely curious what talks went on to get something like that passed.
I think it’s because the laws have changed in the meantime, but they wanted to give survivors of older cases a chance to still get some justice.
He tried to kill Kid Cudi by blowing up his car, I imagine a 17 year old was (correctly) pretty scared of what a man in his position could do
In one incident described in the court papers, Ms. Ventura says that in early 2012, Mr. Combs grew so angry about her dating the rapper Kid Cudi that he said he would blow up the rapper’s car. “Around that time,” the suit says, “Kid Cudi’s car exploded in his driveway.”
Through a spokeswoman, Kid Cudi confirmed Ms. Ventura’s account that he had a car that exploded. “This is all true,” he said.
-NYT
(Free article: HuffPost)
…wow
Didn’t some law or something come in where cases like these can still be heard in court? I’m pretty sure that’s why we’re seeing an influx of these articles.
Fear or shame, probably.
Rape and murder have no statue of limitations I thought.
NM has a 7 year statute of limitations on murder. Rape has similar in many places.
Welp that’s sad and disappointing.
Did a quick Google and it looks like while there is a statue it was extended in 2019 to 20 years for second degree and 10 for third degree, with no limits in incest and first degree. It was 5yrs for second and third which was wildly inadequate imo.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/us/new-york-law-rape-statute-of-limitations-extended/index.html
That seems insanely short. But given the history the mafia had in that state it shouldn’t surprise me
I was not aware we had a history of mafia here.
Shit that’s on me, too high and thought it said NV
Don’t worry, every state has had some kind of “mafia.”
The Amish, the Russian, the Redneck, somewhere, in some investigative report on organized crime, some journalist got your back.
That’s it? Jeez.
It appears that it may have changed. My childhood best friend was murdered in 2007, but there was not enough evidence to prosecute the suspect at the time. Last I heard there was more evidence now.
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Gross dude
Love seeing “no record of this comment” when someone clearly said some incel clown shit.
You guys should try it.
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Yes, you are dubious.
No you don’t understand she wanted it.said the gross person … Disappointed in humanity sigh…
