• Globeparasite@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    well yes but actually no. Arab states in palestine, yes. However they’ve been under Turkish occupation for most of their modern history

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        1 year ago

        ah yes because being under the rule of a foreign empire doesn’t imply occupation by said empire… I think you have a lot to teach to the entire english speaking world

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          1 year ago

          Occupation requires you to own land prior to that Empire, and no Palestinian has ever laid claim to their own territory without that territory belonging to someone else, throughout all of human history.

          Before the Ottoman Empire was a mix of caliphates and crusaders. Before that was the Roman empire. Before that was the Persian Empire, before that was the Egyptian Empire and before that it was Israel/Judah.

          I skipped a couple of minor empires, but it’s pretty much a chain of “someone’s” forever, and that “someone” has never referred to themselves as Palestinian prior to the mid-20th century.

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            11 months ago

            The arabs caliphate were arabs and claiming the land was theirs and calling it Palestine. The question you should ask is : why were there no massive independentist fight under the Ottoman rule ?