• TWeaK@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Except for all the parts in the world that have proven it true. No, you should just keep your head in the sand and rely purely on hope that someone you know won’t be killed.

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              Young children shouldn’t be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home.

              There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance.

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                My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined.

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                  Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you.

                  No one’s saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn’t supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life.

                  How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What’s different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness.

                  You don’t need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are.

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                    I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice.

                    However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition.

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      Guns are meant to kill at a distance without your opponent touching you or possibly even seeing you, they are fundamentally a cowardly weapon.

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        The phrase “never bring a gun to a knife fight” is referring to intelligence not bravery.

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          How about “idioms don’t dictate real life and people are dieing”, does that jive with you?

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          I’d rather they didn’t kill each other at all, it’s weird that you’re so defensive about being able to murder people easier.

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            That isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You are the one who thought it was brave to kill people close up.

            Maybe you should spend some time working on yourself.

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              Lol, that isn’t at all what I stated or implied. You’re the one who thought it was brave to kill people from far away.

              Have fun with your guns. Coward.

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                That’s because you changed the text of your earlier post. I never stated it was brave to kill anyone at any distance. You seem to be a craven hypocritical anti-2A nut job.

                You are the very embodiment of why I choose to keep my firearms and support the 2A.

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                  The fuck? I absolutely didn’t change the text. I’m just a regular guy who is fed up with the gun lobby bullshit in this country. Kindly go fuck yourself.

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        Your perspective is incredibly narrow.

        Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons.

        Definitely all those black people with guns facing down the racists with guns at the Tulsa Race Massacre should’ve been brave and fought fisticuffs, 21st century style. /S (Yes I’m well aware their homes and businesses were burned to the ground despite attempts to defend themselves).

        The Black Panthers were just cowards. /S

        The trans folks at Tenacious Unicorn Ranch definitely were cowards for not facing bigots threatening to kill them with fists and harsh words. /S

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          Must be nice to never have to worry about defending yourself from attackers who overpower you or who have weapons.

          As someone who lives outside of the US: it is nice. You guys should try it.

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          I’ve literally only ever seen a gun take a life that didn’t deserve it. How many home invaders have you personally staved off? You know this isn’t 1921 anymore, right?

          The gun culture in this country is toxic and you’re part of the problem spreading that bs to justify your own peace of mind. I’m sure you only need Jesus and your ar-15 to survive but the rest of us would like to go to the grocery store without worrying about the place being shot up by some nut job that picked up a rifle at the corner shop on a whim.

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        This would be a lovely take, if there weren’t so many other people running around with guns. Is it cowardly to want to protect yourself from the actual cowards?

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          Oh, you mean the cowards with guns? The guns that make it so easy to murder you or even schools full of children? You’re talking about those gun users specifically, right? Boy, it would be great if we could get some meaningful laws about that, huh.