Seriously I’ve been called a “Tankie” recently even though I’m a god damn anarchist
I was once called a tankie because I was advocating for tenant unions
Well when I imagine a tenant union, if you aren’t using a tank what’s the point? Lowering rent? Fuck that housing is a human right
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Well, calling someone a communist doesn’t always have the same negative connotations that it used to have. Because of that, they wanted another term that means the same thing but has negative connotations, which is why they picked up the term “tankie”, while disregarding the actual meaning of the term.
It’s really annoying, because the term was actually really useful, but is far less meaningful than it used to be.
it signals to “normal progressives” that there’s a line
Tankie is when
It’s annoying when capitalists genuinely think tankie is synonymous with Marxist. There’s nothing inherently wrong with being a communist or a socialist, but many people lack the education and experience to understand what separates tankies from other socialists. Much like tankies, they believe China is somehow communist, only they disagree as to whether this is a good or bad thing.
It’s especially annoying because actual tankies are dangerous as hell. Some of them seem convinced they’re more left wing than anarchists or libertarian socialists, despite the fact that the best existing ML states are capitalist autocracies. While alliances with tankies are possible, they will stab you in the back more consistently than liberals once they gain power. They point out how many liberals will disappoint you, but it’s the case of a black hole calling the kettle black. Tankies inherently silence opposition to the party. The few MLs who do what’s right will be silenced by the tankie majority.
I hate the people who misuse terms like tankie, as it gives tankies the opportunity to point at the misuse and claim the term is meaningless. Ignorant leftists believe the tankies, and repeat their lie, not knowing they serve the interests of a wannabee ruling class. That’s the perverse part about all of this. The states tankies support have serious class stratification. It’s an inevitable feature of those system, and tankies refuse to even consider what changes to Marxist-Leninism might prevent it. Shutting down reasonable criticism is a vice, not a virtue. It strengthens the group mechanically, but results in terrible outcomes.
Leftists and their wall of texts…
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The term has its uses, but as any term, it is many times used for people who don’t fit the term at all
Like I’m not innocent in this, I tend to throw it around regularly, but only when arguing with people who explicitly defend authoritarian governments.
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My dude most anarchists, communists and socialists would call a stalinist or Russian supremacist a Tankie.
Are those also “liberals”?
The term seems to mostly be used now to shut down left wing talking points by social democrats and liberals
I don’t know. A meme about “Chinese communists” crushing American leftists in addition liberals and racists is sus. It implies that their ideology is clearly stronger, while also implying that American leftists don’t understand their own situation better than foreigners. The idea that American leftists would fall apart in response to a Chinese perspective is strange when we hear plenty from foreign leftists about how our county looks from outside. I would love to hear more of that perspective, but I don’t think it would change things that much for any of those groups.
I don’t think the interpretation of it being pro tankie should be that surprising if you think about it critically.
It’s funny, as I interpreted the meme as the internet a dumpster fire of arguing and adding more gas to the fire. But I mean like I said it was innocent chuckle I thought I’d share.
