How to Kill a Decentralised Network (such as the Fediverse) écrit par Ploum, Lionel Dricot, ingénieur, écrivain de science-fiction, développeur de logiciels libres.
Everyone who’s into the fediverse concept should read this article.
this article is stupid. boo hoo capitalism. the number one thing that harms the fediverse is easily the frivolous defederation that people do all the time. it’s the reason why I have to have multiple microblogging accounts, and now multiple link aggregator accounts, on different instances, just so I can talk to everyone. these same shitty little tyrants are coming over from reddit and deciding who you are allowed to talk to and what you are allowed to talk about, and it’s splintering the network into neighborhoods that have to guess what the other ones are ever talking about. enjoy your insular echo chambers.
this article is stupid. boo hoo capitalism. the number one thing that harms the fediverse is …
So you’re talking about two things, the article being stupid and your troubles with defederated instances.
The solution to defederated instances is to join a fully federated instance, if you really want that. Note, there are various reasons to defederate, including spam accounts. Anyways, it’s easy to find fully federated instances. No need to maintain multiple accounts.
All this was off-topic. Sadly, you did not say much on-topic.
And this is different then you having to have a Twitter, Google, Facebook, Discord, Reddit, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc etc account how exactly? Difference with federated networks is that those “insular echo chambers” (not my experience, but hey) can work together and in actuality do work well together.
I see it a bit differently. For me, the point of activitypub is to decentralize. One of the wonderful things about activitypub and the fediverse is that while it supports universal federation, it also allows people to contemplate smaller, integrated communities. I never saw it as an “all or nothing” proposition; if a community like Beehaw wants to select their federation partners carefully, that’s absolutely okay.
If an instance decides that Meta, or Tumblr, or notareal.in.stance don’t fit their community vibe and they exclude them from federation, that’s… the fediverse working properly. Having the ability to interconnect is wonderful… but we should not expect that all instances will want to interconnect with everyone else.
this article is stupid. boo hoo capitalism. the number one thing that harms the fediverse is easily the frivolous defederation that people do all the time. it’s the reason why I have to have multiple microblogging accounts, and now multiple link aggregator accounts, on different instances, just so I can talk to everyone. these same shitty little tyrants are coming over from reddit and deciding who you are allowed to talk to and what you are allowed to talk about, and it’s splintering the network into neighborhoods that have to guess what the other ones are ever talking about. enjoy your insular echo chambers.
So you’re talking about two things, the article being stupid and your troubles with defederated instances.
The solution to defederated instances is to join a fully federated instance, if you really want that. Note, there are various reasons to defederate, including spam accounts. Anyways, it’s easy to find fully federated instances. No need to maintain multiple accounts.
All this was off-topic. Sadly, you did not say much on-topic.
And this is different then you having to have a Twitter, Google, Facebook, Discord, Reddit, Tumblr, Pinterest, etc etc account how exactly? Difference with federated networks is that those “insular echo chambers” (not my experience, but hey) can work together and in actuality do work well together.
The point of activitypub is to not have walled gardens. If meta is successful then you bed RTeddit is probably going to have to federate.
Tumblr and Wordpress is already coming.
Mozilla is too.
I see it a bit differently. For me, the point of activitypub is to decentralize. One of the wonderful things about activitypub and the fediverse is that while it supports universal federation, it also allows people to contemplate smaller, integrated communities. I never saw it as an “all or nothing” proposition; if a community like Beehaw wants to select their federation partners carefully, that’s absolutely okay.
If an instance decides that Meta, or Tumblr, or notareal.in.stance don’t fit their community vibe and they exclude them from federation, that’s… the fediverse working properly. Having the ability to interconnect is wonderful… but we should not expect that all instances will want to interconnect with everyone else.