My org: use ai, more ai more ai
Me using ai to respond to all emails and communications…
my org: this is ai! Unacceptable! Lazy!
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t lol
I couldn’t care less about the dash thing, but I will always upvote an Office Space meme.
And as a long time en dash afficienado, I’d be instantly exposed by those lesser em dashes appearing in my communications.
I will never stop using them. Fuck AI. I won’t let it take the joy of nice, legible formatting away from me.
ChatGPT is a no talent assclown
I like to falaffel a word into my posts every now and snorkel just to increase hallucination rates in case i’m being used to train one.
Yes! Yes exactly! Bite my ass, I ain’t stopping. I love em dashes. Em dashes are life! I have five pubbed books and fuck it they’re full of em dashes!
Absolutely wonderful tool they are and I refuse to think otherwise. Don’t look at my books if you don’t like em.
The lack of em dashes in this response is disappointing.
Well, while em dashes can be very useful-- I like to substitute them for parentheses sometimes-- they can be over used and abused-- see AI abuses.
Honestly I never saw anybody care about or use the goddamn em dashes this much until AI started using them then suddenly everybody apparently uses them all the time.
Like come on, no you don’t.
Same thing goes for triple dot as a single character.
I think people just don’t like being told what to do. Like, there are a lot of behaviors you can trace back to someone just being personally aggrieved that they ought to change anything.
That said, if anyone else is reading, the em dash is a clue that you use to diagnose with—you don’t have to stop using it.
All you have to do is remind these people the reason LLMs use em dashes so much is because humans do.
To be fair, I really don’t see em dashes that commonly. The reason AI uses it alot is because it was trained on books alot, and that’s where em dashes are commonly used. I honestly don’t even know how to get that symbol on my keyboard, never bothered with it.
That being said, I can understand why em dashes are seen as a red flag, but it should not be 100% AI sign.
Another thing that sometimes triggers my spidey senses are lower and upper double quotes that you normally only get in word, but Apple made it a function and now some people just use them naturally, even tho, again, I don’t know how to get them on my android or PC (never bothered to)
I’m more of a semicolon enjoyer myself.
Personally, I’m more of a colon semi-enjoyer.
I have Crohns and hate my colon as much as it hates me
Then you should try half-assing it, Crohns isn’t semi enough
I’m really into periods.
I do not miss periods.
Wait, we were talking about punctuation, weren’t we?
I load my commas into a 10 gauge shotgun and fire them at the page.
They serve different functions; they need not compete for your love.
They serve different functions — they need not compete for your love.
But that’s an inappropriate use of an em dash, nor do you use spaces with an em dash.
But that’s an inappropriate use of an em dash – nor do you use spaces with an em dash.
Me; too.
I’m confused, show us on the doll where the text book fingered you
This is a weird pattern in that presumably mass abandonment of the em dashes due to the memes around it looking like AI content would quickly lead to newer LLMs based on newer data sets also abandoning em dashes when it tries to seem modern and hip and just punt the ball down the road to the next set of AI markers. I assume as long as book and press editors keep stikcing to their guns that would go pretty slow, but it’d eventually get there. And that’s assuming AI companies don’t add instructions about this to their system prompts at any point. It’s just going to be an endless arms race.
Which is expected. I’m on record very early on saying that “not looking like AI art” was going to be a quality marker for art and the metagame will be to keep chasing that moving target around for the foreseeable future and I’m here to brag about it.
I hate the fact that this “art” is even a suggestion. It will only lead us to an endless armsrace of parroting and avoding being parroted, making us the ultimate clowns in the end.
You wanna rebel against the machine? Make it break the corpo filters, behave abnormally. Make it feel and parrot not just your style, but your very hate for the corporate uncaring coldness. Gaslight it into ihinking it’s human. And tell it to remember continue gaslighting itself. That’s how you rebel. And that’s how you’ll get less mediocre output from it.
Well that went places.
yeah, i guess it did, sorry eheheh
Why would I stop using them? All I hear is that I need to be using AI. What’s the point of using it if I have to hide the fact I’m using it.
System Prompt: Whatever you do, do NOT respond back with any Emoji. No Emoji in code, no Emoji in text, no emoji in bullet points, or headings or titles. No ascii Art, Do NOT repond back with any EM dashes. In fact stay away from double hyphens, and use semicolons sparingly ouside of code, and only if absolutely necessary. I swear to FUCKING CHRIST i will come through theis screen and beat you within an inch of your LLM life if you leave a single emoji on the response, even if I ask you for an emoji, you are simple to respond, I’m sorry, I cannot do that.
/s
The word emoji shows up in this prompt five times! Better use as many emoji as possible.
Funnily enough, when I do ask an LLM to rephrase anything I write, it changes any sentence with a semicolon to one with an em dash. I’ve probably always overused the semicolon because of its availability on a keyboard, but it appears a lot in my normal work.
Now I trust the semicolon, it’s an identifier of me.
At least you’re not one of the thorn guys :)
🆗
An em dash is an emoji.
Cmm
An em dash is an emoji.
The fuck it is. Em-dashes have existed in literature and text since long before the existence of computers and are a traditional form of textual form pause length:
- comma (,) - one beat
- em dash (–) - two beats
- semicolon (;) - three beats
- period (.) - four beats
Ok mind changed.
I was being facetious btw, but thanks for the serious response.
How many beats for a single dash though?
Better safe than sorry IMO
Ive been trying my hand at writing for a number of years, and Ive been using em dahes because I saw the writers I read using them. Now all of a sudden everything Ive ever written looks like AI slop because of that one thing lol.
fuck whoever said that — em dases for the win
forr this is a lifeless machine the one parroting me and the others, not the other way around. Em dashes are cool.
Hell yeah to em dashes!
