• DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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    5 days ago

    Zootopia is about racism within the police force and its complicity in the systemic racism conspiracy that was the American crack epidemic…

    And furry shit.

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      Zootopia was a mess. I finally got around to watching it at the beginning of last month and I think the message it was aiming for was a good one but the execution was messy. Spoilers ahead. It does a pretty good job of establishing that there’s systemic prejudice against prey species in their setting, then plot happens and one of the oppressed folks does something horrific to the oppressors and briefly manages to flip the oppression and since the predators experienced systemic oppression they… Uh… realized it was bad? Or did the ending just end up at a slightly less shitty return to the original status quo with lessons learned by a few of the main characters?

      I also may have had a certain real world event fresh in my mind that definitely didn’t help.

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        Predators are all over the societal food chain. Consider Nick.

        To me it was more of a detective story X coming-of-age story. The actual social commentary doesn’t cleanly map onto specific issues beyond a general “discrimination and crime are wrong”.

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            Agreed. The second was just pure product placement. Although I suppose it’s difficult to design a fictional internet that’s not painfully generic and cringeworthy (as in, not once have I seen it done), they just kept all the sites that paid them money, and somehow added in generic versions of sites that WERE IN THE FUCKING MOVIE, as well as product placement for their own properties. It was just the worst bastardization of the internet I’ve ever seen. I’d bet that everything about it was designed by people that’ve never heard of a Tumblr or a Mr Beast.

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              6 days ago

              It’s wild to me that people shit all over the writers of this movie without realizing Pamela Ribon also has writing credits on Nimona and her own personal project My Year of Dicks, both of which are pretty good.

              This is like judging David Cross’ entire fucking career for being in a Chipmunks movie. Fuck all his work on Arrested Development and Mr. Show, he was in a shitty movie for a paycheck, he must be a fucking loser!

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                I’m not blaming the writers specifically, I think that everyone had to work very hard to make this as soulless and overtly corporate as possible. You’re right, even the greatest creatives make piles of shit, but unfortunately, the piles of shit are still there. Maybe it’s bad because Disney’s execs made them remove all the good stuff to “appeal” to more people, like with Elio, or to a lesser extent, Gravity Falls and the Owl House.