The insurrection case against Wagner founder Yevgeny Prigozhin will be closed, and he will move to Belarus, Russian dictator Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on June 24.

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        This entire thing has made Putin look weak as fuck.

        He had to cut a deal to stop the coup attempt.

        He’s also a strongman style dictator. Cutting a deal to end a rebellion that he promised to crush? No, his days are now numbered. This coup attempt failed, but it will not be the last coup attempt.

        When the perpetrators of a coup attempt are free to try again, they will. A lesson the US didn’t learn either.

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          @chaogomu Right:

          • Putin’s regime looks weak… to negotiate with a private company to avoid that their attack the capital of the country (a private company, not the NATO, not a bit terror organization) looks not really good.
          • The Russian army doesn’t seem to be able to defend the Russian territory from the incursion of an organized armed force (able to occupy in hours a town with more than one million inhabitants)
          • Wagner doesn’t look now as a company in which future stakeholders can trust, and trust is the base of the work of contractors.

          I think it is embarrassing for everyone involved.

          @LollerCorleone @entropicshart @endlessvoid

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        @endlessvoid And what is the goal? Now the results after the performance looks like;

        • Putin and the actual regime are weak: armed contractors leave their positions, enter in national territory and occupied a bit town without that the army is able to stop them. At the end and for the first time Putin’s regime negotiates publicly with an oppositional illegal armed force inside its territory. Result: the regime show weakness.
        • Wagner as a contractor leaves the places in the line of combat and revolts against their actual employer: Result: Wagner cannot be trusted by future employers.
        • Since Prigozhin is not more in Russia/Ukraine, and it has been exiled, the command chain and control on Wagner is not more stable. At the same time the Russian Army doesn’t seem able to take control of it, at least outside of Russia/Ukraine. Which control does now Russia have about the contracts in Syria, Africa, etc?

        To be a theater… it doesn’t seem to have a goal. Everyone seems here to be a loser: Wagner not more a successful company, Putin not more the head of a strong regime, the Russian army not more able to defend their territory against a armed force (worse, against a private company, not even a country or a terror organization).

        For me more than a theater it looks like symptoms of decadence.

        @LollerCorleone @entropicshart

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          Before this ending I thought it could have been the creation of a plausible excuse to end the war letting Putin save face (we couldn’t win the war for Wagner’s fault etc.etc.). But yeah at this point is just embarrassing for everyone and I can’t see a point in it

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    Either Prigozhin is very stupid, or he is very smart.

    My bet is that polonium tea will give us the answer.

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    What an insane 24 hours. Man just completely fucked Putin and the government and shoots to Belarus.

    Maybe didn’t get the support he needed?

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      Yeah, his bff general Surovikin told him to fuck off. If Surovikin supported him, he had a legit chance at getting a lot of support from parts of the military. But once Surovikin was out, he had no chance.

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    When did wars have trades like an NBA trade deadline? MSN headline is literally “Prigozhin to be sent to Belarus as part of deal” my question is who does Russia get in return?

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      Well Putin probably likes having a bit more time to figure out how to get rid of Prigozhin and Wagner, rather than having them at the gates of the Kremlin with guns.

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    Not even Lukanshenko is safe in Belarus, what are the chances that Prigozhin will be safe there. He will probably escape to southeast Asia.

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    Those who refused to participate [in the insurrection] will sign contracts with Russia’s Defense Ministry

    So Wagner will be absorbed into Russian forces. I wonder how the mercenaries feel about this.

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      @DarkGamer what it will be difficult will be to absorb into Russian forces the teams of Wagner deployed in other countries, especially African countries. They have been deployed as private contractors working for the local government or for local rebel groups. But… as part of the Russian Army that is diplomatically unsustainable (only exception Syria, since Russia is present there).

      @LollerCorleone

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    “Friend, Belarus is the next place we will go after we take Ukraine. That will be a less bloody military exercise, of the kind that you say you are interested in. We are strong enough without you in Ukraine. Go to Belarus. Infiltrate. Await orders. Their president is already on our side. It will be easier than we thought even Ukraine to be.”