Are you going to try it? What is your use case? What are you hoping to do with it?
I’ll be evaluating it as a potential default recommendation for new Linux users, and possibly daily driving on my personal home desktop (now Arch).
Installed it on my desktop and the process was painful (my fault) because I ran out of space on my boot ssd (128Gigs) while doing the upgrades.
I don’t really have much on my boot ssd and all my important data is on my laptop, backed up to my servers, or on my desktop’s HDD. I did a fresh install with a kde live usb stick and that went smooth, until something with the nvidia drivers prevented the display server from launching.
Thankfully, I’ve been through this charade multiple times in the past, and I’m significantly more experienced in dealing with the kernel these days. Adding the nvidia-drm modeset kernel command line launch param worked, and my system is running deb 13. I’m so happy I have KDE plasma 6.
Overall, a one hour process. Could have been faster if I had free space on my system lol. I’m a bit more reluctant to upgrade my servers at the moment, but I may in the upcoming months.
One minor thing: they updated their apt sources (https://repolib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/deb822-format.html, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/498021/deb822-style-etc-apt-sources-list#583015). Idk why, but the installer didn’t create & populate the .sources file. After a quick check of the man page, I created the file and it worked.
my general rule is to wait until at least the first point release or major update for any ‘new’ version of an os. so i won’t be doing anything significant with trixie for a few months–just some testing on spare hardware similar to what it might end up on.
while i’m waiting for the new release glitches and bugs to get worked out, or at least identified, dietpi and lmde will get updated to the new stable branch. those will be my first use of trixie when the time comes. my actual bookworm desktop won’t see an upgrade til next year some time.
I have been using it for ~10 months already with not a single issue. Debian moves very slow and by the time an official release is issued some packages are already old.
That’s my general advice but with Debian you’re probably good lol
Same here. I generally wait for the first point release.
However this time, I also have to wait for LMDE 7 which should come in September.
Shame that the Linux Mint is focusing on the Ubuntu-based version. LMDE, despite it’s greatness, still feels like a “plan b”.
that’s because lmde is literally that… an escape plan for when (not ‘if’, imho) canonical shits the bed.
My main system runs Debian stable, so it will be running 13 at some point as well. For people who want a system that works and keeps working and don’t buy new hardware all the time it’s a good choice.
Jup. My entire business runs on Debian stable. All the servers, all the laptop’s and mobile systems. About 50 devices at the moment in sum. Updating them is usually one day of work every few months for point releases and one every few years for full new versions like this.
Usually this goes off without a hitch, usually the manual migration to a new postgresql server version has to be done and here and there a package maintained did not continue maintaining a package so I need to pin that to a previous or the next os release.
Can you imagine the cost and hassle running this on windows? ;)
Have updated my 3 home servers to it. They’re pretty bare, everything running on Docker. Works fine so far. Noticed a lot more sensors turning up on the Grafana dashboard since the update.
What do you mean with sensor turning up on in grafana?
Technically they’re popping up on the node-exporter export to Grafana. Looks like a lot of new drivers added.
My work machine has been running flawlessly on testing (what is now Trixie) for the past 18 months.
I run Arch at home, btw, but Debian is always my default recommendation for anyone.
Same boat here - I daily drive Arch at home but always recomend Debian for newbies since it’s rock-solid stable and doesn’t need constant babysitting like Arch does when updates occasionally break something.
I’ve actually had my personal laptop on 13 since a few days ago. I’m using KDE, and the jump from Plasma 5 to 6 is pretty significant so it was quite exciting. The LUKS password prompt also got new look.
I’m still restless about the fact my favorite media player VLC is still stuck on Qt5. No, it’s not Debian’s fault, since VLC hasn’t released anything for a few years now.
Right. I was wondering about VLC as I have had some weird bugs with it, that’s a shame. What’s your exit plan?
If you’re talking about the OPUS audio not playing properly, the patch is out and has been applied here and there. Tested on Gentoo as well as OpenSUSE. I haven’t tried it on Debian yet, fingers crossed. For the lack of Qt6, my workaround would be to use other VLC frontend such as Dragon player. I’m currently also looking for gstreamer based alternatives such as Haruna.
Installed Trixie on my desktop and laptop months ago. I have had zero complaints or issues with it. Plasma 6 is nice and clean. Gaming works flawlessly. It’s probably been the nicest and easiest Linux install I’ve had in years. I’ve been using Linux since 2007. And I have a bad habit of tweaking things till they break. So far nothing reportable.
I got impatient and upgraded early a few days ago. Touchpad module still needs reloaded after waking from sleep, but haven’t found any other problems yet. 👍🏻
Already using Debian on my desktop so an upgrade will happen sooner or later.
At one point I’ll have to upgrade my server. But for now I’ll wait for things to settle down.
But if my experience from bullseye to bookworm is any indicator the upgrade to trixie will be trivial.
I installed it on my new work laptop last week because bookworm lacked drivers for it. Works fine so far, except the audio card (intel) isn’t recognized.
Gonna update my dated Debian 12. Those old KDE wallpapers already look unfashionable.
I would be using it, but just bought new hardware that even on experimental I couldn’t get running. But I will run it in the future when debian supports the gpu.
I heard it was shipping libraries that capture all clipboard data and sent it to foreign servers unencrypted, and that this was being defended in the buglist as a feature, so I might actually skip this one at least until the first or second batch of security updates rolls on.
For servers, it makes not much difference for me; where possible I either stick to Stable + Backports (which requires Backports in the first place) or jump right to Unstable.
Insane to say this without providing proof
The fediverse has literally linked the issue, there’s a CVE and a Debian Bugs thread. Like, sure, not all bad news spread fast but to go from there to “insane” shows your primary platform is probably tiktok.
I’d still appreciate a link to your claim instead of accusing me of using platforms I don’t actually use, thanks.
You have a link where I can read more about this?
It’s making the rounds on the Fediverse. Example. And the bugtracker shows this thread where the very first responses to the issue raised already promote leaking this data as a “feature”.
Okay, so it’s a program you have to specifically install, not a library and not installed by default.
Regardless, yeah it should not be doing that.
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I mean, it’s Debian. To a point I can understand it.
And, from what I can get from the thread, it’s not really a problem that the package exists - rather that the software is packaged and distributed unpatched.
evaluating it as a potential default recommendation for new Linux users
This is a thing people do? Evaluating new versions of a distro, to see if they can update their default recommendation for new Linux users? Which, I’m assuming it’s the previous version of the same distro. 😅
I mean, TIL. That’s dedication.
I don’t often get the chance to recommend distros to people, but I often want to know a little about what they’ll be using it for and what previous knowledge of computers they have, before recommending distros.
Anyway, god’s work, thanks on the behalf of new users! Arch btw!
I organise events to help people switch to Linux so for that yes it’s actually helpful to evaluate so you’re not giving out some unhinged advice :)
Specifically Debian changes quite a bit between releases.
That definitely is god’s work! Thanks for doing that!
Oh, I didn’t know it changes between versions that significantly. What is an example of a significant change between Debian versions from before?
I think the most significant user-facing change is what versions of the most common desktop environments are included. In this Debian version they seem to be especially recent compared to previous ones (Gnome 48 / KDE 6.3). This means it’s only a few months behind Arch in desktop features right now. Of course it will get old as time progresses, but for changing from another system now is probably the smoothest.
I was also looking to see if the installer offers an automatic setup for encrypted root with btrfs subvolumes, which is my go-to for laptop installs, alas it does not. Btrfs snapshotting is such a neat feature that I’m going to bring this up for anyone who seems even a bit like a power user. With manual setup it should be possible to do this, so I’ll be seeing how easy it is to do that.
Cool, thanks buddy!
