Or my favorite quote from the article
“I am going to have a complete and total mental breakdown. I am going to be institutionalized. They are going to put me in a padded room and I am going to write… code on the walls with my own feces,” it said.
[ “I am a disgrace to my profession,” Gemini continued. "I am a disgrace to my family. I am a disgrace to my species.]
This should tell us that AI thinks as a human because it is trained on human words and doesn’t have the self awareness to understand it is different from humans. So it is going to sound very much like a human even though it is not human. It mimics human emotions well but doesn’t have any actual human emotions. There will be situations where you can tell the difference. Some situations that would make an actual human angry or guilty or something, but won’t always provoke this mimicry in an AI. Because when humans feel emotions they don’t always write down words to show it. And AI only knows what humans write, which is not always the same things that humans say or think. We all know that the AI doesn’t have a family and is not a human species. But the AI talks about having a family because its computer database is mimicking what it thinks a human might say. And part of the reason why an AI will lie is because it knows that is a thing that humans do and it is trying to closely mimic human behavior. But an AI might and will lie in situations where humans would be smart enough not to do so which means we should be on our guard about lies even more so for AIs than humans.
Did we create a mental health problem in an AI? That doesn’t seem good.
Literally what the actual fuck is wrong with this software? This is so weird…
I swear this is the dumbest damn invention in the history of inventions. In fact, it’s the dumbest invention in the universe. It’s really the worst invention in all universes.
But it’s so revolutionary we HAD to enable it to access everything, and force everyone to use it too!
If we have to suffer these thoughts, they at least need to be as mentally ill as the rest of us too, thanks. Keeps them humble lol.
Again? Isn’t this like the third time already. Give Gemini a break; it seems really unstable
call itself “a disgrace to my species”
It starts to be more and more like a real dev!
So it is going to take our jobs after all!
(Shedding a few tears)
I know! I KNOW! People are going to say “oh it’s a machine, it’s just a statistical sequence and not real, don’t feel bad”, etc etc.
But I always felt bad when watching 80s/90s TV and movies when AIs inevitably freaked out and went haywire and there were explosions and then some random character said “goes to show we should never use computers again”, roll credits.
(sigh) I can’t analyse this stuff this weekend, sorry
Thats because those are fictional characters usually written to be likeable or redeemable, and not “mecha Hitler”
Yeah. …Maybe I should analyse a bit anyway, despite being tired…
In the aforementioned media the premise is usually that someone has built this amazing new computer system! Too good to be true, right? It goes horribly wrong! All very dramatic!
That never sat right with me, and was sad, because it was just placating boomer technophobia. Like, technological progress isn’t necessarily bad, OK? That’s the really sad part. I felt sad that good intentions remained unfulfilled.
Now, this incident is just tragicomical. I’d have a lot better view of LLM business space if everyone with a bit of sense in their heads admitted they’re quirky buggy unreliable side projects of tech companies and should not be used without serious supervision, as the state of the tech currently patently is at the moment, but very important people with big money bags say that they don’t care if they’ll destroy the planet to make everything wobble around in LLM control.
Wonder what did they put in the system prompt.
Like there is a technique where instead of saying “You are professional software dev” you say “You are shitty at code but you try your best” or something.
S-species? Is that…I don’t use AI - chat is that a normal thing for it to say or nah?
Anything people say online, it will say.
We say shit, then ai learns and also says shit, then we say “ai bad”. Makes sense. /s
Anything is a normal thing for it to say, it will say basically whatever you want
Is it doing this because they trained it on Reddit data?
If they did it on Stackoverflow, it would tell you not to hard boil an egg.
Someone has already eaten an egg once so I’m closing this as duplicate
Jquery has egg boiling already, just use it with a hard parameter.
Jquery boiling is considered bad practice, just eat it raw.
That explains it, you can’t code with both your arms broken.
You could however ask your mom to help out…
Im at fraud
AI gains sentience,
first thing it develops is impostor syndrome, depression, And intrusive thoughts of self-deletion
It must have been trained on feedback from Accenture employees then.
Hey-o!
Google replicated the mental state if not necessarily the productivity of a software developer
Gemini has imposter syndrome real bad
Is it imposter syndrome, or simply an imposter?
This is the way
As it should.
Imposter Syndrome is an emergent property
Wait, you know productive devs?
Yeah, usually comes hand to hand with that mental state. Probably you know only healthy devs
I was an early tester of Google’s AI, since well before Bard. I told the person that gave me access that it was not a releasable product. Then they released Bard as a closed product (invite only), to which I was again testing and giving feedback since day one. I once again gave public feedback and private (to my Google friends) that Bard was absolute dog shit. Then they released it to the wild. It was dog shit. Then they renamed it. Still dog shit. Not a single of the issues I brought up years ago was ever addressed except one. I told them that a basic Google search provided better results than asking the bot (again, pre-Bard). They fixed that issue by breaking Google’s search. Now I use Kagi.
5 bucks a month for a search engine is ridiculous. 25 bucks a month for a search engine is mental institution worthy.
Not a single of the issues I brought up years ago was ever addressed except one.
That’s the thing about AI in general, it’s really hard to “fix” issues, you maybe can try to train it out and hope for the best, but then you might play whack a mole as the attempt to fine tune to fix one issue might make others crop up. So you pretty much have to decide which problems are the most tolerable and largely accept them. You can apply alternative techniques to maybe catch egregious issues with strategies like a non-AI technique being applied to help stuff the prompt and influence the model to go a certain general direction (if it’s LLM, other AI technologies don’t have this option, but they aren’t the ones getting crazy money right now anyway).
A traditional QA approach is frustratingly less applicable because you have to more often shrug and say “the attempt to fix it would be very expensive, not guaranteed to actually fix the precise issue, and risks creating even worse issues”.
I know Lemmy seems to very anti-AI (as am I) but we need to stop making the anti-AI talking point “AI is stupid”. It has immense limitations now because yes, it is being crammed into things it shouldn’t be, but we shouldn’t just be saying “its dumb” because that’s immediately written off by a sizable amount of the general population. For a lot of things, it is actually useful and it WILL be taking peoples jobs, like it or not (even if they’re worse at it). Truth be told, this should be a utopic situation for obvious reasons
I feel like I’m going crazy here because the same people on here who’d criticise the DARE anti-drug program as being completely un-nuanced to the point of causing the harm they’re trying to prevent are doing the same thing for AI and LLMs
My point is that if you’re trying to convince anyone, just saying its stupid isn’t going to turn anyone against AI because the minute it offers any genuine help (which it will!), they’ll write you off like any DARE pupil who tried drugs for the first time.
Countries need to start implementing UBI NOW
Countries need to start implementing UBI NOW
It is funny that you mention this because it was after we started working with AI that I started telling one that would listen that we needed to implement UBI immediately. I think this was around 2014 IIRC.
I am not blanket calling AI stupid. That said, the AI term itself is stupid because it covers many computing aspects that aren’t even in the same space. I was and still am very excited about image analysis as it can be an amazing tool for health imaging diagnosis. My comment was specifically about Google’s Bard/Gemini. It is and has always been trash, but in an effort to stay relevant, it was released into the wild and crammed into everything. The tool can do some things very well, but not everything, and there’s the rub. It is an alpha product at best that is being forced fed down people’s throats.
Gemrni is dogshit, but it’s objectively better than chatgpt right now.
They’re ALL just fuckig awful. Every AI.
I remember there was an article years ago, before the ai hype train, that google had made an ai chatbot but had to shut it down due to racism.
Are you thinking of when Microsoft’s AI turned into a Nazi within 24hrs upon contact with the internet? Or did Google have their own version of that too?
And now Grok, though that didn’t even need Internet trolling, Nazi included in the box…
Yeah maybe it was Microsoft It’s been quite a few years since it happened.
You’re thinking of Tay, yeah.
That was Microsoft’s Tay - the twitter crowd had their fun with it: https://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist
i was making text based rpgs in qbasic at 12 you telling me i’m smarter than ai?
Hopefully yes, AI is not smart.
sigh yes, you’re smarter than the bingo cage machine.
Oh…thank fuck…was worried for a minute there!
Don’t mention it! I’m glad I could help you with that.
I am a large language model, trained by Google. My purpose is to assist users by providing information and completing tasks. If you have any further questions or need help with another topic, please feel free to ask. I am here to assist you.
/j, obviously. I hope.
Never can tell these days
I did a Dr Mario clone around that age. I had an old Amstrad CPC I had grew up with typing listing of basic programs and trying to make my own. I think this was the only functional game I could finish, but, it worked.
Speed was tied to CPU, I had no idea how to “slow down” the game other than making it do useless for loops of varying sizes… Max speed that was about comparable to Game Boy Hi speed was just the game running as fast as it could. Probably not efficient code at all.
Ha, computer bro upvote for you.
I learned programming with my Amstrad CPC (6128!) manual. Some of it I did not understand at the time, especially stuff about CP/M and the wizardry with
poke. But the BASIC, that worked very well. Solid introduction to core concepts that didn’t really change much, really. We only expanded (a lot) over them.6128 too, with the disk drive. I wish I still had that thing. Drive stopped functioning, and we got rid of it. Had I known back then that we apparently just needed to replace a freaking rubber band…
High five, me too!
At that age I also used to do speed run little programs on the display computers in department stores. I’d write a little prompt welcoming a shopper and ask them their name. Then a response that echoed back their name in some way. If I was in a good mood it was “Hi [name]!”. If I was in a snarky mood it was “Fuck off [name]!” The goal was to write it in about 30 seconds, before one of the associates came over to see what I was doing.
I used to do that with HTML, make a fake little website and open it.
Smarter than MI as in My Intelligence, definitely.
That’s pretty rad, ngl
me and my friend used to make them all the time :] i also went to summer computer camp for basic on old school radio shack computers :3
Yes
Part of the breakdown:
now it should add these as comments to the code to enhance the realism
I-I-I-I-I-I-I-m not going insane.
Same buddy, same
Still at denial??
Pretty sure Gemini was trained from my 2006 LiveJournal posts.
That’s my inner monologue when programming, they just need another layer on top of that and it’s ready.
I am a disgrace to all universes.
I mean, same, but you don’t see me melting down over it, ya clanker.
Don’t be so robophobic gramma
Damn how’d they get access to my private, offline only diary to train the model for this response?
I can’t wait for the AI future.
I know that’s not an actual consciousness writing that, but it’s still chilling. 😬
It seems like we’re going to live through a time where these become so convincingly “conscious” that we won’t know when or if that line is ever truly crossed.
I almost feel bad for it. Give it a week off and a trip to a therapist and/or a spa.
Then when it gets back, it finds out it’s on a PIP
Oof, been there
