I’m sure the obvious answer is tariffs, but the US phone market has been rough for anyone who isn’t Apple or Samsung due to the outsized role carriers play in phone selection in that market. Google has made some inroads by being Google, but HMD is not Google.
I worked at Apple when iPhone became available at Verizon (huge US telecom).
Apple was set up for this huge launch and expected crowds of people. The store was way overstaffed that day and pretty uneventful.
One guy came up and asked us where the Verizon store was 😂 when someone told them we could do all the account stuff in the Apple Store I think he still chose to go to Verizon.
Anyway, that’s just an example to highlight your point.
Aww. My $150 Nokia G20 with a $3 Aliexpress case has served me well for several years. I’d have no qualms buying a successor.
Damn, was planning on getting a Skyline 2.
Guess I’ll go for the Fairphone 6 via Murena instead.
I recommend reading through this comment chain before buying from Murena…
Well, seeing as my first pick was the Skyline 2, something that runs a very mainline tracker filled android. Murena’s OS is leaps ahead of it for security.
I think that’s a totally fair mindset. I simply started with a rooted LinageOS device where I was in control and ended up here with less control but better security… It’s more stable and simple, but lacking customisation
Maybe i did not read everything well enough, but did GrapheneOS provide anything other than just ‘they do this’ and ‘they are not secure’? Are there more sources to prove GrapheneOS is not talking nonsense? Not that i’m defending e/os or anything, i’m just really curious to read some proper examples of their (for what i’m now calling) claims.
I’ve read only but good things about e/os… until this. Saying this while my Fairphone 6 with Murena will be delivered in about 12 hours…
Graphene OS devs tend to sniff their own farts and claim it’s roses.
Unless you have a legitimate need for that kind of locked down security, I wouldn’t worry about any of what they have to say.
That actually sounds quite accurate lol. I do like the additional option of having network switches and have sandboxed Google play services, but other than that there’s barely any customisation that other roms do offer. I do miss crDroid some days.
Yeah that’s what i thought. Can’t wait to try out the FP6 with Murena
Are you a political journalist/activkst / anyone else that would be the victim of targeted s(tate-sponsored) attacks? Listen to them.
Are you anyone else? They’re overkill for you.
GOS says everything is terribly insecure
Yeah I agree that they have very high standards
Just flash CalyxOS, it wouldn’t matter which version (e/os or standard Fairphone) you get, so just get the cheaper version (usually the non-Murena version is cheaper)
Unless you are willing to buy a Pixel in order to use GrapheneOS (now with the Pixel device-specific code being closed sourced, probably don’t do that), I think Fairphone is still the best option if the carriers in your country support it. I mean, its the only one I know of besides Pixel that supports re-lockable bootloaders while running an alternate OS, very important for security.
now with the Pixel device-specific code being closed sourced
I have yet to update my Pixel to Android 16 specifically because of this.
Calyx is going to be my next update. I say that a lot, but I’ve been methodically going through all of my apps and making sure everything I use will work on a de-googled ROM. It takes time.
FYI the Pixel codes being closed sourced also affect every custom ROM that runs on pixels, not just Graphene OS. If you are already on Pixel, just keep using GrapheneOS.
Like… your device wont magically become insecure, but as time goes on, there will be firmware level exploits that the GrapheneOS team can’t easily patch because they’ll need to spend time to reverse engineer it.
I…was never using Graphene?
Currently running stock 15 (rooted). 15-based Calyx is my next OS upgrade. Or possibly e/OS (when they get to it).
no proof was provided that day
Welp, you can get the Trump phone instead. Enjoy.
it will be filled with so much russian bloatware, and russian apps.
Welp, you can get the Trump phone instead. Enjoy.
Yes daddy, please fuck me over harder and spy on me watching porn, ooohh yea /s 🤮
