Time to schedule a visit from the Jehovah’s Witnesses to some of the local Mormons.
Question: is it a crime to give them the address of people I don’t like
Depends on the country but I’d assume if you don’t harass them and just do it once nothing would happen in most places.
JWs set up a little booth on weekends in a park I ride my bike through. I’ve never seen them talking to anyone but each other. They always seem to be retirement age, do they have trouble recruiting young people?
obviously, young people are more wary of cults, and JW score quite high on various “are we a cult?” quizzes
TIL Bible swatting is a thing.
And it doesn’t even have to be yours
Jehovah’s around here have always been pretty cool folks. Their goal is to save your soul. Regardless of whether or not you feel thet may be the case; their intent is well meaning.
Uh, no. They are, and have always been an awful cult that will lie, cheat, manipulate, and otherwise destroy people for trying to leave said cult.
Yeah, but at least they’re nice about it. And look at those ties! How can you not trust a guy in a tie?
They have been covering up child sexual abuse for decades. Making children face their abuser, destroying records, not cooperating with the police…
They discourage their members from going to college or seriously pursuing a career. They practice disfellowshipping and shunning, where you lose your entire social circle if you leave or even do something as minor as be known to have watched porn. They trap people essentially - you work a low wage job like cleaning windows because you aren’t supposed to pursue higher education, you are expected to provide free labor for their real estate scheme, and also the hours and hours of free labor going door to door.
They let their children die rather than have blood transfusions. Hospitals and doctors have had to come up with ridiculous “bloodless surgeries” to keep these people alive, because they read a single verse in the Bible flat out incorrectly.
JW’s are a cult. The proselytizing doesn’t convert anyone, the purpose is to have the members routinely rejected to convince them of the evils of society. There is nothing good about the organization; there are certainly individual JW’s who are good people, but it’s a fucking cult.
Well meaning intent without rational thought can be very damaging, though
Individual Jehovah Witnesses are nice. The organisation as whole is incredible evil even by organised religion standards.
According to their beliefs, those who never heard of Jesus go to heaven as innocents like babies. So by spreading the word they are intentionally damnit most to Hell. Especially given that they believe only 144,000 get to go to heaven.
While that is true, and the hate for any religious practice or belief on lemmy is a bit grating (I’m an atheist), my best friend grew up in the witnesses and was robbed of the only family and community she had ever known when she was excommunicated, because she accepted baptism at like 12 or some shit. Which is a totally appropriate age to be putting all of your support systems and your literal family on the line if you ever change religious perspectives or realize you’re gay.
She’s now married to her childhood best friend; they had a very cute gay wedding.
It is good that they are generally nice folks. It is fucked up that they think that is an okay thing to do to children. Robbing children of their families for accepting something they were too young to understand is frankly disturbing.
It is good that they are generally nice folks.
It really isn’t, though. There’s nothing I hate worse than polite, evil people who make tone arguments and value appearance over substance. The way they condescend to you just adds insult to injury.
Their goal is to induce you into their abusive cult where they’ll take control of your life. These are not harmless or well meaning people.
Intent alone doesn’t matter. According to a lot of Christians their intent is the same but boy are they bad when it comes to executing… according to what I heard from former JWs it’s the same for them.
If you want to help or save people, you don’t need a common believe or organized religion in general.
That is weird to me, isn’t there only room for 140k souls in their version of heaven?
Why would you want to reduce you chances of getting in by adding more potential members?
This thread is getting really confused about their theology; if you have an hour to spare, the Knowing Better video is quite good.
It’s a pyramid scheme, and your place in the pyramid/heaven is defined by how many souls you save.
People that convert the most people, or who’s converts go on to convert the most people go to heaven.
But if you chose not to help other souls for selfish reasons you’re definitely not getting in. Catch-22
140k are the VIPs that will go to heaven. The other good people will be resurrected and live happily but only on earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah’s_Witnesses_and_salvation
They want to help but will hurt you and many others unintentionally. Someone holding out a red fire poker when you’re stuck in quicksand. They do mean well though.
