• lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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    Let’s be clear about what is upsetting Musk. He is in favour of the tax cuts to the rich. He just thinks that the poor should SUFFER MORE to make the tax cuts happen. He wants to keep all of the stuff that will benefit him, and cut all the stuff that keeps everyday Americans alive. Please don’t spin this as some kind of redemption arc for Musk. If anything, he upset that Trump isn’t even shittier.

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    Musk could have been a superhero. He could have just made EVs and not done a Nazi salute … things would probably be fine.

    No. He had to tamper in politics and likely give Trump the win. Musk was too dumb to realize he would get thrown to the side the minute he said anything but “yes” to “Great Leader” … now he is thrown to the side and is too dumb to realize it’s over for him. He is hated on all sides.

    He can kiss Trumps ass or fade in to obscurity. Those are his options.

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      Not really. Musk was a snake oil salesman for years. The people who believed in him were foolish to do so, all of that long before his salute and his budget concerns. We should also remember that fascists don’t have a long game. They really are as ridiculous as they appear. There was no possibility for Trump or Musk to maintain a positive image, except through brute force threats.

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      I honestly think he’s still team Trump and always was, he just dropped the mask and is now trying desperately to put it back on to save his stock.

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      Am I the only one here who predicts that Elon will jump out of the window soon?

      Trump’s great friend and inspiration has already sent his oligarchs flying for less.

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    A little late there champ. You enabled the (other) fascists already, not sure there is coming back.

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    Man… Just shut the fuck up already and go away…

    I’m all for him hurting the GOP and Trump’s image, but he is the absolute furthest fucking thing from what a political leader needs to be… He’s just doing this because he’s an attention whore who’s pissed that everyone hates him. He needs needs to be forced into the cave of mundanity and nothingness like the dispicable little troll he is.

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    The most likely outcome is nothing.

    The second most likely outcome is a fracturing of Trump’s opposition, further weakening their ability to impede him.

    If they weren’t such fragile idiots I’d suspect it was a ploy to create a controlled opposition.

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      The second most likely outcome is a fracturing of Trump’s opposition, further weakening their ability to impede him.

      Why would MAGA follow Elon Musk? Better question. Who would even follow Elon Musk? He’s hated by one side for being a literal Nazi and the other side for for going against Trump. I guess he still had his tech bro and crypto toadies but those people aren’t really a reliable voter base.

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          Wanted: Nazi Toadie to run for political office.

          Requirements: Must have 12 years experience writing AI prompts and understand how to use X.

          Experience giving blowjobs to a malformed penis a plus.

          Compensation depends on how corrupt you are.

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      Why do you think that? Do you think Republicans can’t get mad enough at each other’s words and actions that voter turnout for them wont drop or that some may get pissed and actually vote against someone the hate?

      If you go numerically the majority of people who like Musk are Republicans, not Democrats. His views aren’t going to suddenly flip and make more people left of MAGA like him.

      It seems more likely it would fracture MAGA to me. Let them fight each other. We could definitely use the stalling of shit if there is anything left to save in 2029. The 2026 elections and reactions to by the current legislature before 2027 will play a huge role in figuring out if anything will be salvageable.

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        I can’t see a significant percentage of Trump’s MAGA supporters abandoning him in favor of Musk. But I can see Musk being a divisive figure among the non-MAGA Republicans, with some refusing to work with him while others are happy to take his money.

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          You only need ~5% of Republicans to not vote or hate Trump enough to say maybe unknown candidate will be better and vote for them.

          Can he get 1 in 20 Republicans to think Trump and co are bad? Not sure, but when your enemies want to fight each other, let them

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          There is growing complaints in MAGA about Trump. They didn’t want wars and they don’t like the Big Beautiful Bill. MTG of all people has taken those stances.

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    You know, I heard a rumor that AOC should run for president as an independent party, because she’d never make it through the Democratic primaries, but that would be a terrible idea, because it would split the party. Let’s say 50% of the country is Democratic and 50% is Republican; if the Democratic vote gets split 25% for the Democrat candidate and 25% for AOC, but the Republican vote stays 50% for their candidate, then the Republicans win in a landslide. I have a feeling that this is why the two-party system is so ingrained into our politics.

    But if the Republicans also split their party into MAGA and non-MAGA Republicans at the same time, then that election becomes somewhat balanced again, and probably closer to what the founding fathers actually intended. Granted, Elon isn’t calling for a new party for a presidential election, just to stop this bill, but still, it’d be interesting to see an election with four viable candidates rather than two.

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      independents are pressure candidates. she likely could run as an independent but it wouldnt actually be to become president. it would be for the Democratic party to buy her concession.

      Look at what RFK Jr did. he left the race for a cabinet position and policy agreements.

      She could use an independent presidential run to pull the dems back towards the left

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    “It is obvious with the insane spending of this bill, which increases the debt ceiling by a record FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS that we live in a one-party country – the PORKY PIG PARTY!!” Musk wrote on X and ketamine.

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    Elon could bring the whole regime down if he chose to do so.

    Twitter isn’t completely dead, and he could gear all propaganda on it to suit his whims.

    He could slice this administration to ribbons if he chose to apply himself to the goal.