• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      16 hours ago

      Pew’s latest study suggests that Trump would have won even if they all voted.

      Mostly because the majority of Americans seem to be OK with face eating leopards.

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          In general, the people ARE actually pretty progressive (as evidenced byprogressive policies tending to be favored by overwhelming majorities when not attached to the name of someone the establishment has spent millions if not billions vilifying).

          The main problem is that the political system has fallen so deep into corruption that it’s a representative democracy in name only.

          It’s way past time for rebellion against not just the fascists, but also the system itself and the Democrats who consider it more important than the general welfare of the people.

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            “the people are progressive”

            Said about a country that voted for trump, twice. And every corporate democrat in every primary.

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              National elections are won by the over representation of land versus people and the winner-take-all electoral college.

              It’s a very broken system but it’s the one we have. So yes, the people are progressive but land and the electoral college wins elections.

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              Both of those times were through an antiquated and unrepresentative system and with less than 50% the vote with low voter participation.

              Less than a third of the eligible to vote population ≠ the country.

              Well-meaning people pretending/being fooled into honestly believing that the presidential elections accurately reflect the will of the people without any trickery and downright fraud is how the corrupt demagoguery is allowed to persist.

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                  No. Once again your blind trust in institutions leads you astray.

                  There are tens of millions of Americans for whom voting is made extremely difficult and time-consuming if not downright impossible to do by deliberate voter suppression tactics from (mostly but not exclusively) Republicans.

                  If there had been free, open, and fair elections, the GOP would never be able to win a nationwide election.

                  You don’t fix the system by assuming that it works as officially intended and blaming the powerless for the outcomes created by the powerful and corrupt.

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                    You don’t need to walk uphill for 20 miles in the snow to vote. You need to check a website anytime in the months before the election and then stand in line for a while. As the worse case, because sometimes you can vote early or per Mail.

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      Harris won more votes than Obama. Didn’t save her or the rest of the country.

      Also, and this cannot fail to bare mentioning, Harris and Biden both campaigned on a policy of mass deportation. Dems are still bragging that they deported more people than Trump. Mass deportation is a bipartisan policy.

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        I have never seen a dem advertisement based on deportation.

        To say “both sides” campaigned on a policy of mass deportation is a straight up lie. Mass deportation isn’t bi-partisan as you say… with zero proof no links and nothing to back up your bs… you offer no proof and are therefor a liar.