For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.

Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.

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    Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.

    People holding onto “that’s not what Jesus would do” are just in denial about the cult they participate in.

    Jesus is just a tool used to dupe rubes. If you need a fictional character to tell you to act like a decent human being then you’re not a good person.

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      Harsh but true.

      But a little besides the point OP is trying to make - which is about Jesus’ teachings themselves, not the cult that grew up around it - as far as we can deduce what Jesus actually did and said of course. Which isn’t much but enough to come to a similar conclusion as OP claims.

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        Which is why he had to be made an example of and executed. It took a few hundred years for his brand to be perverted into funding a gilded palace in Rome.

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      threat of eternal damnation

      And that’s what a lot of people get wrong about christianity. Jesus literally said “everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die”

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        And what happens with those that don’t believe? Those that doubt for even a second? Burn in hell for all eternity!

        Believe in us or you are forever doomed.

        It’s an ultimatum designed to terrify and control people.

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          And what happens with those that don’t? Those that doubt for even a second? Burn in hell for all eternity!

          Even the apostles doubted many times and nobody thinks they burn in hell right now.

          It’s an ultimatum designed to terrify and control people.

          If somebody calls himself christian out of fear and terror, then I’m afraid we believe in different gods.

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            Even the apostles doubted many times and nobody thinks they burn in hell right now.

            Nobody thinks or do you mean you think? Cause you have to be joking yourself if you think there are no worshippers that fear burning in hell for their sins.

            If somebody calls himself christian out of fear and terror, then l’m afraid we believe in different gods.

            How do you know which one is correct? Yours is just an interpretation of another person’s interpretation of events that happened ages ago. The writing in the bible is clear about burning in hell for all eternity and now you are cherry picking what parts you believe in?

            How does any of this shit have any kind of credibility with that level of brain gymnastics.

            I don’t believe in any gods. There are hundreds of versions of god that you don’t believe in, only difference is I don’t believe in one more.

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              Even the apostles doubted many times and nobody thinks they burn in hell right now.

              Nobody thinks or do you mean you think?

              I mean… they are literally called “saint” and guess what it means.

              Cause you have to be joking yourself if you think there are no worshippers that fear burning in hell for their sins.

              Surely there are. If I met such person, I would gladly talk with them, or recommend some literature on this topic.

              How do you know which one is correct? Yours is just an interpretation of another person’s interpretation of events that happened ages ago. The writing in the bible is clear about burning in hell for all eternity and now you are cherry picking what parts you believe in?

              It’s not my interpretation, it’s the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church (and probably other “variants” too, I’m just not aware of the differences).

              I don’t believe in any gods. There are hundreds of versions of god that you don’t believe in, only difference is I don’t believe in one more.

              Okay, that’s your choice

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      IMO it made sense in the times when enforcing the law was harder to do. But a lot of time has passed since then, religions (as in whole communities, priests and followers) somehow made it their point to not change much

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          Not necessarily. Punishing theft or manslaughter is not oppression. And it makes sense to have systemic safeguards against those

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      Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.

      There are a lot of different religions and beliefs in the world, right? Christianity and similar religions are not the only ones that exist, and many religions originated from ancient human primitive tribes.

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        Yes and we don’t practice many of those anymore because we know we don’t have to sacrifice people to make sure the sun rises. These primitive ceremonies and practices go away with education and science.

        What’s left are grifters, pedos and people abusing those that are desperate and superstitious.