• trevor (he/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      10 hours ago

      If you are in the US, ROMs aren’t illegal either. You’re just required to rip them from a cartridge/disc you acquired legally (including second-hand purchases) and you can’t distribute it to others. It’s the latter part that makes it illegal (but not at all immoral). If you wanna do that last part, god bless. Fuck these companies.

      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        22 hours ago

        Not really; The emulator doesn’t use any copyrighted code, but the ROM is copyrighted. That’s just basic IP law.

        What is fucked up logic is Nintendo encrypting their ROMs, then providing decryption keys on the console. So the emulator itself is legal, but actually booting a ROM requires decrypting it, which requires keys from a legitimate console. Nintendo has argued that those keys are illegal to use in an emulator, even if the user rips them directly from the console that they own. So you have the keys. You own the console they’re stored on. But it’s illegal to use those keys anywhere except on the console they came on, because Nintendo said so.

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          19 hours ago

          Because US DMCA law has provisions in it about copyright circumvention. Same thing led to the “you can’t repair your own John Deere tractor” debacle.

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          23 hours ago

          It’s like being handed a MP3 player but being told you’ll go to jail for playing music you ripped yourself.

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            22 hours ago

            Generally, ripping for personal use is not litigated, only distribution. It may technically be illegal in most places, but then, reproducing someone’s work without compensation should be prohibited.

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              11 hours ago

              Then you had bands like SOAD, who released an album titled “STEAL THIS ALBUM!”
              Some music stores put their own stickers on the cd cases saying things like, “please don’t”, it was a great time.

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              21 hours ago

              There was a point in the 1980s where PC games fully allowed and encouraged you to copy your games for backup purposes. They even had some companies who gave detailed steps explaining how.

              What ended up happening is you owned a PC, your buddy owned a PC. You made two backups of the game. One for you, and one for your buddy. Now between the two of you, you buy half the games, because you buy one, your buddy buys a different one. And now you both have two games.

              Now multiply that by however many friends you knew who owned PCs. You might buy 1 game, but own 15 games.

              By the 90s, PC game makers did a 180, and were now trying to prevent archiving of their games, but it was too late. Laws had been written to allow for backup of personal data. Yes, you WERE breaking the law by giving your buddy the backup, but they couldn’t prevent you from creating the backup.

              And in a pre-internet world, how would they ever even know you made a backup?

              • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz
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                Of course companies wanted people to share the free demo versions but some full games did have annoying protection schemes in the '80s. Obfuscated data and purposely “bad” sectors on floppy; cardboard decoder wheels; asking for word #x from line #y of page #z of the game’s manual, or, similarly, a page of codes printed in black ink on dark maroon paper to prevent photocopying… leading to folks distributing cracked versions and the cracking tools themselves!

                To be fair, it was a pretty ridiculous time. Computer club meetings just turned into floppy-copy-fests.