• 1984@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    Every young generation feels like that. Every single one before yours felt the same. :)

    Its actually not about generations being different, we are the same. You may be 20, I may be 50, we still want the same things.

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      11 hours ago

      Sure, we may want the same things, but we don’t go about trying to obtain them in the same way.

      Your generation largely has those things… you know, housing, a retirement investment plan… younger generations largely do not, and they never will, because your generation climbed the ladder set up for you by your elders, and then you guys blew it up with dynamite after you finished climbing it, in order to selfishly preserve your own status.

      This ultimately destroyed society in the process, and now, well, that bomb your generation threw at the ladder after climbing up the wall… has done collateral damage to the wall itself, and will soon crumble, and you all will have impoverished yourselves and all your children.

      The housing market is currently crashing, Trump’s mismanagement has damaged your 401k, and Trump and the Reps really, really want to destroy Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, VA Tricare, all that shit… and the US economy will soon enter into a Second Great Depression, and most of you will die alone, being mistreated in understaffed, corporate run retirement homes, or just on the streets homeless after your house gets foreclosed on and you can’t find work you can actually do.

      Your generation could have instead been more equitable with your historically anomalous and freakish amount of prosperity… by continuing and expanding upon the New Deal and Great Society style programs.

      Instead, your generation dismantled them, and it made things so unfair and unstable that, unless you are one of the very few who made it into the top 1 to 0.1%, most of your material wealth and accompanying social status will evaporate right when you need it the most.

      Oh and there’s also the whole… climate change thing, which your generation refused to take seriously during the timeframe where doing so could have made a difference, so the result is that now most of humanity is doomed to perish this century.

      You are the generation that grew up watching a man transposed forward in time, bellowing "You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!” … and then your generation just… did that, blew it all to hell.

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        Im not American so I dont have a 401k, and im not part of New Deal or Great Society style programs… But sure, I understand why you would assume that. It makes sense because of what I wrote.

        About perishing because climate change, I dont believe that will happen. Nature is the least of our problems. Our leaders are the problem. Their greed and lust for power, their tendencies to be narcissists or full blown evil monsters. The worst of humanity. At the top of the pyramids of power.

        If the US goes into a full depression, its because of its leaders. The rest of us havent done anything. I think you should blame them, and not previous generations of people just like yourself.

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      Doubtful. The boomers are uniquely self serving as a group and have a sort of cruelty brain rot bug that may or may not be lead poisoning.

      Many are obsessed with entrenching themselves within institutions, creating a poor work life balance (while blaming the rest of us for not sacrificing as much) leading to fragile interpersonal relationships that are centered around ‘keeping up with the Joneses’ rather than creating a meaningful sense of community.

      Most younger generations blame boomers for having a good life and then promptly shutting the door in their children’s faces.

      We have survived 500,000 years as a species because past generations cared about the world they left behind for their descendants. Boomers, instead, are collectively focussed on enriching themselves by putting our future at risk as collateral.

      As a generation, they will not be remembered well. Many of us wish they would simply step aside so we can fix the mess they’ve propogated.

      Tl;dr: There is more to this than the usual young vs old dynamic.

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        Have you read history? When you say that 500.000 years passed and you feel those generations cared about the world, but boomers just dont, it sounds like you havent.

        You make it sound like everything was just amazing and peaceful and selfless and then boomers just destroyed all of that… :) Read about history and how people treated eachother. America was created in 1776, founded on genocide of the native people. Everyone cared about eachother back then, looking out for eachother?

        You can read about hundreds of these historic events around the world. Humanity has a history of taking things from eachother and being cruel. The way your generation looks at boomers as the problem is a bit strange. Its like you just woke up, and you look 20 years back and think you have identified boomers as the problem and now humanity is going to die because of them. Its a bit funny and you would see that yourself if you had my perspective.

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          I’m aware. In ancient hunter gatherer societies elders often accepted death gracefully once their care needs became a burden on the tribe. They knew that their final purpose was to look out for the greater good.

          Things changed with the advent of civilization and especially modern medicine. Modern society has minimal if any comfort with death. If anything it fights it to the point of embracing the unnatural.

          Boomers have been a burden for some time now. That doesn’t mean they have to disappear nor are they the only generation in human history that has had a negative impact. But it’s notable to the point that an asterisk will be put next to their era. They inherited, in many ways, a world of plenty (relative peace and abundance) and have left us with a world of scarcity (whether artificial or real).

          That does not mean there aren’t absolutely incredible people that are a part of this generation. But collectively, they have either actively or passively allowed institutions to be steered towards complicity with mass suffering and that will not be soon forgotten.

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            I think its capitalism that is pulling societies from plenty to scarcity, because that is what the system is designed to do. We didnt have ultra capitalism in the west until the last decade or so. You can blame boomers for becoming rich in that system, or you can realize that your generation would not make a difference.

            Now we are in the end game of capitalism where billionaries own it all and the world turns into the masses being monitored by technology, while having just enough to pay the bills. Because if they had enough to stop working for the billionaires, they would.

            I dont think any of this has to do with boomers specifically or that they were more selfish than others. It was just the time when capitalism were booming. Now its over and your generation is late to the party… Its just natural.

            Perhaps on the other side of capitalism, something more fair comes along, or maybe humanity turns into fascism for a while.

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              Capitalism is important but it is a downstream effect of a society that does not prioritize egalitarian values.

              A lot of the issues that hyper capitalism has caused can trace their nexus back to Reagan, who had majority support from Boomers at the time and whose policies have disproportionately enriched Boomers at the expense of future generations.

              Even more recently a majority of Boomers have supported Trump, who appears to be accelerating the “sell out the public’s future for private riches now” ideology.

              Unfortunately for us and them, this will be their legacy. Many of us are waiting eagerly for them to step away from positions of prominence in key institutions so that the rebuilding process can begin, if it’s not already too late.

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                Its nice to see that hope in your writings, that things will improve once boomers step off. I doubt you will be correct but I like it anyway. Lets hope for that. Cheers.

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        Am old, remember feeling the same as you youngsters. The sad fact is a lot of people are bad, and usually when they get older they become worse either through mental decay, denial of being bad parents, a constant physical pain built up over the years, etc etc

        The only way to fix the system is to burn it to the ground. But funny thing is, everyone wimps out

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          I think Millenials, Gen Z and Gen Alpha are or will be better, especially with regard to parenting self awareness, but the reality is boomers have left us with a world where having children is financially unfeasible so it won’t matter. But we can follow up in a few decades and see where things are at. I think Boomers will certainly be remembered a certain way (collectively).

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            My experience makes me feel that members of each generation in power is a hindrance to younger generations.

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        5 hours ago

        That comment got deleted by mods. You could probably make your points in a better way. No reason to try and call me things when you can just state your reasons for disagreeing… Its fine to not agree.

      • Hey bud, idk who pissed in your cheerios this morning but you should go back to bed. Nobody logged on to deal with this kind of anger and aggressive language.

        Honey catches more flies than vinegar 😘