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    Anyway, the San Diego Naval Amphibious Base Coronado shows the american dream

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    tHe PeAcE pReSiDeNt

    (Rather, the clown president)

    Gotta feed $ to Raytheon, Halliburton, Lougheed Martin & the billionaire class.

    🤷🤷‍♀️🤷‍♂️

    LOL impeachable AF but the US 😴😴😴

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    There are theories online that say it was a symbolic attack and that they even warned Iran where and when they would strike.

    First some technical stuff and facts:
    There is much doubt even bunker busters would do significant dammage to Iranian facilities.
    At an estimated 90 -120 meters depth they are well below the range of their capabilities (60 meters).
    And they are heavily protected by various layers and nobody knows where they are exactly.
    Only the entrance and building on the surface is visible.
    The US have only used them once against Yemen and claim they could go deeper by doing double taps.
    This has obviously never been tested.

    Now some speculation:
    The Americans knew they only had a small chance of success (despite the reported mission success propaganda) and 100% certainty of committing an act of war.
    Then why would they do it?
    Fact is the genocide state is getting hit harder and harder, as Iran announced they would.
    There is huge devastation and the situation is untenable.
    They realise they have bitten off more than they can chew and already showed signs of weakness.

    The US ‘taking out’ the imaginary threat and casus belli would solve that problem and give the genociders a way out of the war without losing face.
    As the Iranians said they would stop attacking if they did.

    For Trump it would OC be a huge media victory showing how powerful they are and how they saved the poor genociders.

    Too soon to tell what is true for now.
    We’ll have to see what the actual dammage is, if Iran strikes back and if the war ends.

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    This statement from Trump is unsurprisingly disinformation. Most people interpret “nuclear sites” as nuclear bombs instead of completely legal power stations for civilian infrastructure.

    Please don’t recite this disinformation uncritically. That’s just recycling propaganda.

    Instead it’s worth emphasizing that the zio regime actually has rogue nukes and is using them to threaten the planet with a nuclear holocaust. That’s the actual problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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      I mean, most of it is enriching, by the sound of it, and they’ve been doing that far beyond any civilian application. As a negotiating tactic, to date, per America’s own intelligence.

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      To be fair, Iran wants a nuke down the line, and civilian uranium enrichment is a huge stepping stone. There’s lots of technical alternatives they could pursue if they really just want civilian power.

      …And that’s kinda understandable. They have a neighbor that randomly bombs their civilians.

      Fuck it, let them have one.

      Heck, they should get a tiny bit of old Soviet+US stock in some kind of international deal, so they have credible deterrence with the guaranteed stability+security mechanisms (and oversight?) of their weapons.

      (To be more specific, Cold War nukes typically have elaborate tiggers and failsafes meant to stop unauthorized parties from detonating them with any nuclear yield, and the old school Soviet and US systems are pretty good. Better for them to have that than an “insecure” home cooked design they waste money on, like the North Koreans allegedly have, IMO. On top of that, they’d have “known” detonation signatures, so if they ever go off everyone would know it’s Iran (defeating the fear of them “losing” a nuke to another party, or a false flag op against Iran)).

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        If that was true, they wouldn’t have cooperated with IAEA for years, and it was ne US that destroyed any chances for a peaceful deal.

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          Yes, and that was a cruel, stupid move on the US’s part.

          …But even if cooperation continued, it still would have given Iran expertise. Further enrichment is not a huge step, especially behind the cover of real civilian power programs, and given the rhetoric the state broadcasts and their neighbor’s hostility, it seems likely.

          And that’s fine IMO.

          I’m hugely afraid of proliferation, but going to these lengths to worry about it while the rest of the world burns seems ridiculous.

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            I’ve watched an hour long video on uranium enrichment once (one of the many times Satanyahoo cried wolf on Iran almost having nukes).
            It is most definitely a huge step and there are many other factors.
            It’s really complicated matter.
            I wish for them it wasn’t and that they get one.

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    I have been trying really hard to avoid politics, but this guy just doesn’t stop. He’s dumb fucking us into oblivion.

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    The worst part is, international laws and conventions are basically means nothing at this point. US actions simply incentivizes more countries to get mass-destruction weapons.

    • Does US call you as 51. state? Get a nuke.
    • Does US want to invade your island? Get a nuke.
    • Does US want to airstrike your country? Get a nuke.
    • Does US government officials breach your constitutional rights? Maybe consider owning a mini-nuke.

    Thanks to these maniacs, Kim Jong Un now seems to be wisest person on the earth…

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    This is what happens after a failure of a parade and being laughed at enough to leave the g7 early. This was his ego boost he needed. Oh. And oil or something.

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    A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site…NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!

    How the F*** can anyone use these two lines in a single paragraph. Absurdity here is comical

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      Yes, as uus presidents usually do since WW2. But don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll tell you “THATS NOT US”, and it’s just Trump and definitely not a systemic problem.

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        The POTUS has the discretionary power to send troops and launch a military action without Congress approval in case of emergency alone. There wasn’t any emergency.

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          The “emergency” was Netanyahoo starting the bombing of Iran, soon after someone said “Trump Always Chickens Out”, so Don bravely joined in dropping bombs at no danger to himself.

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        Phew thankfully that’s how its always done so just don’t need to point it out ever again and keep with the status quo

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    What an absolute joke.

    I can just imagine him writing it, hunched over, peck-hunting for the keys. He starts typing bombs. No, he thinks. Slowly backspaces. Starts giggling to himself as he presses the caps lock key. “This will show them how serious I am about my bombs!”

    peck peck peck “B-O-M-B-S”

    Probably sits back in his chair admiring it for a moment. “Perfect. Very strong. Very powerful bombs.”

    Then immediately starts typing about peace in the same shouty caps because why not? Everything deserves caps lock! BOMBS! PEACE! WHATEVER!

    Then ends it with “Thank you for your attention to this matter” like he just sent out a memo about updating the office dress code instead of announcing he bombed another country.

    It’s such a weirdly formal, corporate sign-off after the most unhinged announcement possible. As if bombing other countries is just another agenda item he’s keeping us informed about. Very considerate of him to loop us in on World War III via Twitter memo.

    Absolutely deranged.

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    The Saudis and Israel repeating their influence on the USA. Iraq was first and Iran has been on a waiting list for a long fucking time.

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    This feels a lot like start of a WW3 for the third time in past few years.

    First it was Russia-Ukraine war, then it was Israel Hamas conflict, now its this.

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      WW2 didn’t start overnight. There was a series of military actions that went unchallenged. That only made the belligerents bolder.

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        Indeed. WW2 was a massive slow-walk into the full war. Everyone saw it coming from a mile away and nobody did anything to stop it. Similar to now where everyone can see that this is going to open more fronts.

        At one point all the fronts might band together with more and more suddenly joining each side, and boom you have WW3.