Trans kids don’t have access to surgeries, so we are talking about taking puberty blockers - which are low risk and reversible, and have been used for nearly half a century.
Even if you still think they can’t choose, are you saying kids shouldn’t be allowed to consent to other consequential medical decisions? What about the same exact treatment, but for cis kids? Nobody seems upset that cis kids are taking the same puberty blockers for precocious puberty let alone that cis girls can have breast reduction or augmentation surgeries (treatment trans kids don’t have equal access to).
So what’s the difference, why is it only suddenly a problem when the gender affirming treatment is trans?
that’s actually a good point, what is relevant for a clinican to evaluate a child’s self awareness about their gender? Is being younger than 18 actually empirically relevant to that awareness?
Regardless, let’s say we don’t trust a kid’s self knowledge, how does a cis child know they are cis? Should cis children be forced to take puberty blockers because they don’t really know their gender until they are 18? What is the relevant difference for a trans child?
If you are arguing against trans kids being allowed to go on puberty blockers, the impacts of going through the wrong puberty can be traumatic and have lasting effects on trans kids. Puberty blockers are safe, and it’s not like you can just decide to take them anyways; there are processes that you need to go through with the medical system to make sure it’s actually a decision you want to make, even with any potential side effects.
I wouldn’t trust myself on that either when I was a kid tbh. Like right now I may be dosing estrogen left and right but then? I don’t know really. I don’t remember it that well though. It’s a blur
The thing is…hormone replacement therapy isn’t really a drastic intervention. If the outcomes are not aligning with the treatment plan you simply stop taking the medication.
There are virtually no long lasting repercussions for temporarily delaying puberty. Really the only notable side effects are that you may be a bit taller than you were going to be.
Wait we could have delayed puberty with negative side effects but with actual benefits? Those poor 5th graders with beards would have really appreciated this info. Poor guys really struggled.
Yeap, it’s being diagnosed more every year, especially in young women. I think there are theories about hormone influencing chemicals in the environment, but it may just be a case of better diagnosis in the medical community.
My main point is just that hormone therapy in pediatrics is super common, and the vast majority of it has nothing to do with gender affirming care. Yet we don’t really see any parents or politicians harping concerns about these prescriptions even though they have the same mechanism of action and risk.
Still, enjoying not having ugly masculine fucking face so I am gonna keep it that way for sure
brr imagine looking like some fucking uncle or other used car salesman, how these people can look in the mirror at their balding heads, skin looking like surface of some chemistry experiment gone wrong or ancient Egyptian parchment.
Kill me when I am still relatively young - even better
But all in all I think I would slightly prefer to be some queen Elizabeth the second 99 year old, slightly. Both is just crap in different ways.
Imagine how tits must look like at that age, jesus christ. My morning scrambled eggs are probably more firm and I barely heat them up.
At some point you prolly tripping over them when getting out of bed and you need to roll them up and tie into a bundle.
Adults aren’t any smarter, bud. If you stand on a kids neck and they ask you to move that’s a legitimate request. It’s no different when the kid doesn’t feel “right” in their skin.
To be honest idk about that, kids are pretty fucking stupid in general. Not sure if they should be allowed to do whatever they want before legal age
Trans kids don’t have access to surgeries, so we are talking about taking puberty blockers - which are low risk and reversible, and have been used for nearly half a century.
Even if you still think they can’t choose, are you saying kids shouldn’t be allowed to consent to other consequential medical decisions? What about the same exact treatment, but for cis kids? Nobody seems upset that cis kids are taking the same puberty blockers for precocious puberty let alone that cis girls can have breast reduction or augmentation surgeries (treatment trans kids don’t have equal access to).
So what’s the difference, why is it only suddenly a problem when the gender affirming treatment is trans?
Adults are pretty fucking stupid too
yea, there are adults that wanna change kids genre and compare it to take ballet classes. lmao
Its not the adults that want children to transition, its the children that want to transition
Gender dysphoria exists and is terrible
Huh?
Just another uninformed idiot that thinks kids are getting bottom surgery.
But gender dysphoria is feeling something is wrong, that has nothing to do with intelligence
that’s actually a good point, what is relevant for a clinican to evaluate a child’s self awareness about their gender? Is being younger than 18 actually empirically relevant to that awareness?
Regardless, let’s say we don’t trust a kid’s self knowledge, how does a cis child know they are cis? Should cis children be forced to take puberty blockers because they don’t really know their gender until they are 18? What is the relevant difference for a trans child?
If you are arguing against trans kids being allowed to go on puberty blockers, the impacts of going through the wrong puberty can be traumatic and have lasting effects on trans kids. Puberty blockers are safe, and it’s not like you can just decide to take them anyways; there are processes that you need to go through with the medical system to make sure it’s actually a decision you want to make, even with any potential side effects.
Edit: Good video on the topic, by a trans teen
I wouldn’t trust myself on that either when I was a kid tbh. Like right now I may be dosing estrogen left and right but then? I don’t know really. I don’t remember it that well though. It’s a blur
The thing is…hormone replacement therapy isn’t really a drastic intervention. If the outcomes are not aligning with the treatment plan you simply stop taking the medication.
There are virtually no long lasting repercussions for temporarily delaying puberty. Really the only notable side effects are that you may be a bit taller than you were going to be.
Wait we could have delayed puberty with negative side effects but with actual benefits? Those poor 5th graders with beards would have really appreciated this info. Poor guys really struggled.
Precocious puberty is one of the many reasons kids are put on hormone therapy, its quite common nowadays.
Didn’t eve know that had a name. Learning quite a bit
Yeap, it’s being diagnosed more every year, especially in young women. I think there are theories about hormone influencing chemicals in the environment, but it may just be a case of better diagnosis in the medical community.
My main point is just that hormone therapy in pediatrics is super common, and the vast majority of it has nothing to do with gender affirming care. Yet we don’t really see any parents or politicians harping concerns about these prescriptions even though they have the same mechanism of action and risk.
Sure, but you’re not trans.
-# unless you are trans
I don’t know honestly tbh honest, genuinely I have no idea what I am
fair, same.
Still, enjoying not having ugly masculine fucking face so I am gonna keep it that way for sure
brr imagine looking like some fucking uncle or other used car salesman, how these people can look in the mirror at their balding heads, skin looking like surface of some chemistry experiment gone wrong or ancient Egyptian parchment.
Kill me when I am still relatively young - even better
But all in all I think I would slightly prefer to be some queen Elizabeth the second 99 year old, slightly. Both is just crap in different ways.
Imagine how tits must look like at that age, jesus christ. My morning scrambled eggs are probably more firm and I barely heat them up.
At some point you prolly tripping over them when getting out of bed and you need to roll them up and tie into a bundle.
Adults aren’t any smarter, bud. If you stand on a kids neck and they ask you to move that’s a legitimate request. It’s no different when the kid doesn’t feel “right” in their skin.
‘no different’