• Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I’ve been wondering how does stand your ground work with a force of people not identifiable with guns. There is no way to know if someone is an ICE agent or an impersonator. It doesn’t help the police literally just feel for one themselves with the recent murder.

    • Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      This question depends enormously on what state you are in, and a bunch of other factors that im simply not going to discuss here because i am not a lawyer and I dont want this taken as legal advice.

      Now, in Indiana (the state I live in) you are only really allowed to respond with a proportional response. But the nice thing about “a proportional response” is that it doesn’t mean you can only use a gun if they have a gun. If you, or someone else, is in immediate danger you are allowed to use your firearm. This would also apply in something like a robbery (even if they aren’t armed), or in a SA case. I would imagine “I/someone else was being kidnapped” could be a good defense. And in Indiana cops are not excluded from stand your ground or castle laws.

      Now another thing that I think people get wrong is that castle and stand your ground laws are usually not actual laws, but more of a framework built around case precedent. So if you use your gun, you will still be arrested and have to go through a trial which I personally think is a good thing. It’s kinda like fair use, it’s a widely accepted defense and there’s a bunch of precedent about it, but there is no actual laws saying what is an isn’t fair use.

      But again, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. And tbh, I’m a little more pro-gun than a lot of leftists and IMO blasting and going to jail is significantly better than what could happen if you get kidnapped.

    • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
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      7 hours ago

      Its quite simple

      you = 2 if color == "white" else 0
      masked_gunman = 100 if job == "cop" else 1
      
      if you > masked_gunman :
          print("The justice system works!")
      else:
          print("Life without parole")
      
      • Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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        6 hours ago

        you = 2 if color == “white” else 0 masked_gunman = 100 if job == “cop” else 1

        if you > masked_gunman : print(“The justice system works!”) else: print(“Life without parole”)

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