• TwinkleToes@lemmy.caOP
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      15 hours ago

      ? nobody mentioned Israel. Well - you did, but not sure why. I take that back - I have an idea why. I’m sure I’m going to regret responding to a 2d old burner account - but, here we are.

      • vivalapivo@lemmy.today
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        this is the proxy war

        IDK, really. True that NATO doesn’t want direct involvement and wants Ukraine to kick Putin’s ass. But it begs the question: is Russia a proxy for China or we just force the interpretation of the proxy war onto reality?

        • subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
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          18 hours ago

          It was a throwaway quip but Wikipedia says:

          a proxy war is an armed conflict where at least one of the belligerents is directed or supported by an external third-party power

          So the Ukraine war fits squarely in that definition. Other examples I found cited online were Korea, Vietnam, and the Soviets in Afghanistan - all of which have a major power as one of the direct belligerents

      • TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee
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        Well, no. It was supposed to be the start of Putin putting the USSR back together but those gloriously pesky Ukrainians keep kicking the shit out of that shithole.