• flandish@lemmy.worldBanned from community
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    They defend our nation? How, and in what ways? Bonus points if you can describe it in : current era facts, non-hegemonic, and without using the word “preemptive strike”, and with action on our soil.

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      Realistically, by way of being the political equivalent of a fleet-in-being.

      Mostly, though, by way of ducking up anyone who looks like challenging our putative superiority.

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          We have soft power (or at least we did) with a huge military and spy system to back that up. Do you want a class in military defense and offense? Putin had to use psy ops and put his own puppet in the white house to get what he wants, his military is crap. We protect our allies as well. So you’ll have to explain exactly what you’re asking and I’m sure people in this thread could answer. There are a lot of military people here.

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            the US military has a documented history of psyops and actions against its own. In addition to war crimes. Like all other nations, sure!!

            Sure you can describe the US in relation to other militaries, but you cannot, in good faith, make the claim that it is right, honorable, or even efficient.

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              the US military has a documented history of psyops and actions against its own. In addition to war crimes. Like all other nations, sure!!

              Sure you can describe the US in relation to other militaries, but you cannot, in good faith, make the claim that it is right, honorable, or even efficient.

              What are you exactly asking? This is starting to seem like troll baiting. Since I’m in the discussion, it’s a little harder to just give you a break, but I am warning you. If you were speaking to someone else, you’d be out for a couple of days.

              Edit: It’s happening to others as well, I’m going to give you a few days break.

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              He said nothing about “right, honorable or efficient.” He said we have a huge military/spy complex, and that gives soft and hard power as a nation. Hes right.

              Some greasy idiot with a loaded shotgun walking into a grocery store also gains a lot of hard and soft power about his grocery store experience. It might be imbecilic power that has consequences, but its power.

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                Incorrect.

                The answer truly is that there is nothing good about the US gov or its military.

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                  Like I said no answer is good enough for you, you had already made your mind up. Not a great way to engage in a conversation.

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                  Tell that to the people who Bush helped with the aids program he built in Africa, or the people that Obama helped by taking that successful model and applying it to disease response (that trump fucking gutted).

                  Even Bush, a fucking awful president, still did a good thing with the government.

                  You’re just here to hate on the US.