• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    if anything nobody should have any nukes

    Agreed, but that’s not the world we live in. And it is the extremist governments that have nukes. That’s partly how the US gets away with making war in seven countries at once. (That we know of.)

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      13 hours ago

      I mean the US is not perfect, they also have a clown as a president that does so much harm.

      However crazy that may be, Irans regime still has the complete obliteration of a country as their agende and goal. Surely these people should.never have nukes.

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        10 hours ago

        Us is the biggest bully in at least the 50 last years bombing a dozen of countries, destroying many and organizing dozens of coups. But for yiu this is just a not perfect country and frame it as if trump is the only war criminal president

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        Surely these people should.never have nukes.

        The same people who waited until they were attacked before fighting back? The same so-called extremists who, for decades, have worked within the international community to develop their nuclear program? (Before Donald decided to fund and arm an Israeli war against them, and this was after ordering assassinations of their leaders in his last admin.)

        I think that you’re listening to some very biased newscasts in constructing this opinion.

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          12 hours ago

          Wait so the Iran government are the good guys just wanting peace? What am i getting wrong here?

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            The fact that Iran evidently worked together and upheld the JCPOA, when the West was serious about diplomacy. Then Trump came and everyone was like “okay screw diplomacy, lets just keep increasing pressure and hope the country collapses”- Then Israel came and was like “lets bomb the shit out of them to have the West love me again and stop caring about the genocide i am committing.” Then the West was like “hurr durr, Israel has the right to defend itself by attacking anyone and everyone whenever it pleases and why is Iran defending itself, how dare they?!”

            When Israel assassinated politician in Iran last year. Iran only replied in a measured way to safe face, but seek deescalation. When Israel bombed Iran, Iran for the longest time did not retaliate and when it retaliated still only targeted spots with little risk of injuring or killing people, again being a “don’t tread on me” reaction, without seeking escalation. Now Israel is completely out of their mind and went on to announce and celebrate direct attacks on Civilians, effectively telling Iran, that they are out for annihilating the country.

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            7 hours ago

            Just about everything.

            You don’t have to like their domestic policies, but they’ve been more than reasonable in their relationship to the international community. That can’t be said about any government in Western Europe or their rabid dog occupying Palestine.

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              6 hours ago

              More reasonable by keeping threatening to destroy all of israel? By installing a clock im their capital counting down the hours of total destruction?

              i am not saying what israel is doing is good either.

              You can find both things these guys are doing horrible

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        Country? Or Western colonial regime that has been murdering and displacing the locals indiscriminately for decades? You’re not getting me with semantics, friend.

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          It’s always interesting to me when people unironically downplay the destruction the US government causes and has caused on a planetary, not even local scale.

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            Nobody is downplaying it, US has shittons of dirt on their hands and they should.be judged for that. Be that for their war crimes in Iraq or their dirty CIA tactics to de-stabilize foreign governments.

            And right now Iran is developing nukes, a country thats agenda is to destroy a different state and murdering journalist and punishing women for being born the wrong gender

            The US has nothing to do with these news, you can freely critizise the US in a newspost about them and rightfully so but this is about Iran and their plan to develop nukes to destroy Isreal.

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              a country thats agenda is to destroy a different state

              You are spreading propaganda for a state that is actually commiting a genocide and want to destroy palestine

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              12 hours ago

              The US has nothing to do with these news

              That’s just not true. It’s our weapons being shot into Gaza, Lebanon, and Iran. We have everything to do with this because it’s impossible for these escalations to occur without US weapons shipments.

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                  5 hours ago

                  So you think Iran developing an atomic bomb is a solution for what exactly?

                  Israel bombing them.

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                    11 hours ago

                    So maybe if Iran didnt try to develop a-bombs then Israel would have no reason to attack.

                    But this guy figured it out, nukes for everyone is the solution.

                    Also teachers should have access to nukes so they can deter potential school shooters. And i need some nukes as well to defend my home /s