• KubeRoot@discuss.tchncs.de
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      5 days ago

      No, no, they have a point - if they can imagine something that’s perfectly uniform and sparkly, then that’d actually be something novel

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          2 days ago

          Also a cool thing about imaginination, is you don’t have to stick to or define all the parameters to imagine it. You can go like, I’m imagining in this imaginary senario I’ve figured that part out, and just run with it.

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            2 days ago

            True, but when we say we can’t imagine something, we don’t mean a mental construct that we don’t think through, we mean something tangible. In case of color, it means actually visualizing it mentally, not imagining there could be something.

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                Nah, just two different meanings of “imagine”.

                One is to imagine a color

                And the other to imagine there is a color.

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                  24 hours ago

                  Not really seing how those are different forms of imagination. And also, still imagining the color, just ignoring the limitations or letting them fill themselves in.

                  I can picture a solid color that sparkles evenly, or even that has just one shimmer evenly across the whole surface, however the initial premise was just the limits of imagination, and you don’t need to self-impose a bunch of parameters onto it like you’re engineering something in real life. You don’t need to imagine it 100% accurate to the point where you could reconstruct it, even partially imagining something is still imagining it, and you can even expand on it over time.

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                    22 hours ago

                    In the first case, you can visualize it, at least mentally, like, actually see it.

                    In the second, you just imagine it could be a thing.

                    For me at least, these are two wildly different concepts.