• IngeniousRocks (They/She) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Former vegan, current pescatarian here.

    Dont stop hunting, please. Humans did a phenomenal job of ensuring a required hunting season for deer by wiping out all the natural predators, now without them we have to have culls. If you participate in said culls, PLEASE eat the meat, use the pelt, give the antlers to your dog. We’ve forced ourselves into a position where some of us MUST take up the mantle of predator. If you choose to, just be responsible with the carcass so it didn’t die for no good reason.

    Edit: accidentally lied, I’m not a vegetarian I’m a pescatarian who outside of her 6 shrimp a week is vegan.

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      To add a wrinkle: there’s now “farmed deer”. It’s supposedly more environmentally friendly than farmed cow, but I don’t like it because •vague feelings I’ve not fully examined•.

      So don’t assume any venison you find in the grocery store was hunted.

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        Farmed cervids are why CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease) is a thing. It’s a prion disease. Farmed venison has a high probability of being CWD positive.

        It’s called a high fence operation. Rich fucks actually pay for a canned hunt inside the fence so they get a big antlered wall hanger.

        Myself and my family like to eat does. Curbs population faster and tends to be better meat. We live in a county that is overpopulated with white tail.

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          Ahhh, I had no idea the connection between farmed deer and CWD.

          So, I’m assuming that CWD in deers is caused in the same way that BSE is in cows? It’s miraculous there aren’t any hicks that have contracted the CJD equivalent from CWD deers.

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            Yeah, it’s pretty much the cervid version of Mad Cow. Affects whitetail, mule, moose, elk, maybe some Asian deer. Current research is pointing to it not being human transmissible but they have had lab transmission in primates with direct neuro tissue transfer. It’s highly infectious and stays in the ground for years.

            Captive deer lick noses through the fence with wild deer and greatly helped the spread.

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              There’s so much we still don’t understand about prions, I have a horrible feeling that it should be phrased 'it’s not transmissible to humans yet '.

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        Vague feelings? I think your feelings are pretty spot-on, farming an animal whose population is already excessive in the wild is bizarre.

        Wild deer are more environmentally friendly than farmed deer.

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          The feelings are vague because I can’t put them confidently into words, but your explanation resonates.

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            Probably? Idk I’ve never managed to remember to take supplements, I’ve got some gnarly adhd. I’ve been working on the same bottle of Vitamins for like 6 years, YaKnow?

            So like, yeah I’m sure there’s a supplement, but I also don’t think it’s that big a deal to eat 6 oceanic mud bugs a week.

            (For reference the reason I ever went vegan at all was in response to driving past an overcrowded slaughterhouse and seeking the conditions the animals were kept in, it was horrific. I avoid farmed animal products like the plague, and I try to be responsible in the amount of hunted animal products I use, like I said, just 6 scrimps a week.

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              Makes sense. Taking supplements is hard. My doctor wants me taking krill oil for the omegas and it’s 1. hard to find any that doesn’t come in cow (or mystery) gelatin and 2. hard to actually take the things.

              My B12 is a tad easier because it tastes like candy and is fun to melt under the tongue, but I still don’t take it regularly.