First, mind the community. Can’t help that it ended up in /all. Second, would that point have gotten across to you without the post? So it wasn’t really pointless.
Maybe it’s the over-the-top defensiveness that is the problem, rather than a post in an anarchist community presenting a point of view that made some people react in that way.
I was being funny when I said they made a good point, I already knew that anarchist infighting over whether to vote is pointless and that certain anarchists claiming their political disengagement as representative of anarchism is toxic.
Anarchists don’t care if you vote or not. The problem starts when electoralism binds resources, e.g. when politically motivated people help out an electoral campaign by canvasing.
anarchists claiming their political disengagement
Equating political engagement with electoralism is the actual toxic thing.
Me representing my own anarchist views isn’t strawmanning, even if they’re different than yours. And I will repeat myself: claiming your views as the only legitimate form of anarchism is a toxic form of infighting.
Of course not all anarchists vote, but those of us who are most committed to doing all we can, care about voting. We recognise that it’s incredibly easy compared to arrestable actions, so it has a very good effort to effect efficiency. Those of us who believe in doing everything in our power are inclined to treat people who don’t bother voting with suspicion, since it’s so easy and it could have prevented the impending trans genocide if enough people had done it.
The United States has some of the longest election cycles, maybe in the world, but definitely among western liberal democracies.
So yes, the literal act itself takes a day. But everything surrounding that day is taken up by planning for the next election, enough robs people of other kinds of political engagement, by being such a massive time and energy sink.
Good news for you, voting only takes one day.
But that’s not counting this time we’re spending on it right now.
Wow, good point. Maybe posts like this that pointlessly create drama by attacking people who vote are part of the problem.
First, mind the community. Can’t help that it ended up in /all. Second, would that point have gotten across to you without the post? So it wasn’t really pointless.
Maybe it’s the over-the-top defensiveness that is the problem, rather than a post in an anarchist community presenting a point of view that made some people react in that way.
I was being funny when I said they made a good point, I already knew that anarchist infighting over whether to vote is pointless and that certain anarchists claiming their political disengagement as representative of anarchism is toxic.
You’re nothing bqt strawmanning anarchists.
Anarchists don’t care if you vote or not. The problem starts when electoralism binds resources, e.g. when politically motivated people help out an electoral campaign by canvasing.
Equating political engagement with electoralism is the actual toxic thing.
Me representing my own anarchist views isn’t strawmanning, even if they’re different than yours. And I will repeat myself: claiming your views as the only legitimate form of anarchism is a toxic form of infighting.
The strawman was that anarchists supposedly care if you vote or not.
Of course not all anarchists vote, but those of us who are most committed to doing all we can, care about voting. We recognise that it’s incredibly easy compared to arrestable actions, so it has a very good effort to effect efficiency. Those of us who believe in doing everything in our power are inclined to treat people who don’t bother voting with suspicion, since it’s so easy and it could have prevented the impending trans genocide if enough people had done it.
The United States has some of the longest election cycles, maybe in the world, but definitely among western liberal democracies.
So yes, the literal act itself takes a day. But everything surrounding that day is taken up by planning for the next election, enough robs people of other kinds of political engagement, by being such a massive time and energy sink.
It’s your choice whether you want to campaign for a candidate.