• shoo@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The comment was about self worth not societal worth. Being asexual shouldn’t matter with that argument because you wouldn’t feel the same sexual drive; your self worth isn’t impacted.

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      3 days ago

      Self-worth can be a result of societal expectations. Your parents badgering you about how you should “go get married and have a family” to show how “successful” you are as a person is very much a thing. It can greatly impact a person.

      The only reason a person would feel bad is because society is pushing the narrative that they should feel bad if they aren’t having sex with someone.

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        Self-worth can be a result of societal expectations.

        Sure true, but you can’t ignore that humans have millions of years of evolution that have honed our physiological and social behavior to act a certain way. Just because it’s not rational doesn’t mean you can flip a switch and shrug it off.

        For example, peer pressure in teens is more than a normal learned behavior. The need to conform to an in-group that (historically) will be your lifelong community is immense. The pain of exclusion and embarrassment is amplified, closer to actual physical pain, compared to what an adult/child might feel in the same situation.

        The only reason a person would feel bad is because society is pushing the narrative

        …is because reproduction is a core part of animal evolution. An asexual person saying that core discomfort is invalid is like a person who can’t feel physical pain rolling their eyes at touching a hot stove.

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          I’m not saying it’s invalid, I’m just saying that I personally don’t believe that it’s the true core of the issue!

          It’s way more than just “Men mad because monke brain want sex mad because no sex”.

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            What is the core of the issue? “Society bad”? There are a lot of comorbid social ills but you can’t reduce everything to your favorites.

            Economic frustration will likely manifest as anti immigrant sentiment. Extremist groups provide inclusion as a cure for social isolation. Degrading healthcare systems are fertile ground for anti-vax and pseudo-medicine. Digital echo chambers give a space to amplify every toxic narrative.

            Occam’s razor says the guys preaching the fatalistic misogyny gospel are probably experiencing some strong sexual frustration. If they didn’t have that problem they could find something else to be mad about.

            No toxic ideology precludes the others, but a racist with a stable marriage isn’t going to be blackpilled. He already knows minorities are the real problem.

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            Dunno what to tell you, but your second sentence is just wrong. It is mainly “men mad because monke brain want sex”.

            You only think it’s not because like you said, you can’t relate to most people since you’re asexual.