• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 days ago

    I have zero doubt that if you could somehow wave a magic wand and make it so that men who are driven primarily by boner shame were unable to even comment, the whole anti-woke movement would instantly vanish.

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      9 days ago

      I get that you probably just didn’t think about the implications here, but this would mean there were no bigoted straight people.

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        9 days ago

        The bigoted straight people are being accused of having shame-boners for something else, like say, trans women

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        9 days ago

        Those are classifications we made up, though. Reality is more fluid than that

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        9 days ago

        Wait - what?

        How on earth did you reach that conclusion?

        They’re basically all bigoted straight people.

        What do you think “straight” is? Some sort of all-or-nothing biological switch?

        That’s the same mistake they make.

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          9 days ago

          I think if you’re a dude getting a boner over dudes kissing after you specifically chose to watch that (as in the OP) and call yourself straight you’re doing some Olympic level mental gymnastics 🤷‍♂️

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            9 days ago

            So… you’re taking the position that sexuality is just a handful of rigid categories rather than a spectrum? And that it’s a purely physiological matter rather than a primarily psychological one?

            The irony…

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              9 days ago

              No, but that’s clearly the position you need me to have for some reason. Could you explain what you feel is compatible with the concept of identifying as straight while being sexually aroused by expressions of gay sexuality?

              It’s kinda funny that there was none of this “sexuality categories don’t real” in this post until a queer person suggested something might have been unintentionally offensive.

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                Could you explain what you feel is compatible with the concept of identifying as straight while being sexually aroused by expressions of gay sexuality?

                I think people have the right to identify however they please, and someone else’s judgment of it is irrelevant at best.

                It’s kinda funny that there was none of this “sexuality categories don’t real” in this post until a queer person suggested something might have been unintentionally offensive.

                I have no idea of the sexuality of whoever it is you’re talking about.

                And actually, sexuality categories were key from the start. The reason that insecure men fear and feel shame over the prospect of a wayward boner is that they’re afraid that sexuality is some sort of absolutist thing, such that the least inclination toward the same sex immediately removes them from the “straight” club forever.

                It became explicit when, much to my surprise, someone responded to essentially argue that same position.

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                  I think people have the right to identify however they please, and someone else’s judgment of it is irrelevant at best.

                  In that case it was very kind of you to direct a similar level of scrutiny to the people in this thread claiming that the only reason bigotry exists is because the bigots are secretly all turned on by it.

                  I have no idea of the sexuality of whoever it is you’re talking about.

                  Did you miss the subject of this entire post?