Maybe god does prevent Evil and the Universe is totally just and fair. The problem is humans thinking their version of Evil is the correct one. Maybe.

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    Well, we have a word for god so we must have a concept of god.

    Even if there’s no objective phenomenon which corresponds to the concept, the subjective experiences alone are worthy of attention and consideration

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      We also have a concept of Russell’s Teapot, which is far more likely to exist. That doesn’t mean that the possibility of the Teapot actually existing is worthy of attention or consideration.

      It appears that your post is making an unfounded assumption as support for the conclusion that a deity exists and has certain qualities. That’s not how that works. Starting with a desired conclusion, then building a set of “if this then that” premises may be logically valid, but it’s not logically sound.

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        No, I’m totally not a believer in a deity or anything like that. Given the quantity (and quality) of internet discussions around the topic I can understand how you might have gotten to that idea.

        Personally I’m more interested in how humans arrive at their different ideas of evil, whilst holding very firm to their particular views, a process which is much like how people invented their gods only it also happens amongst the athiests.

        Edit. Wanted to add that people don’t build massive monuments to teapots or build cultural identities around them, so far as I know, so I think you’ve raised a false equivalence there.

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          My position is that “evil”, and its counterpart “good”, are human concepts that imply agency. People have agency, and the actions of people can be described as “good” or “evil” in this way.

          Human brains really like things to happen for a reason, to the point where if something happens without a clearly comprehended reason, a reason will be invented to fill that void, and it doesn’t matter whether that reason is actually true.

          … only it also happens amongst the athiests.

          I’m not sure what you mean by that bit.

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            Sorry, I’ll clarify!

            I mean that atheists engage in the meaning making process you describe, so they have clear ideas of evil to help them with that.

            Whilst divinity is largely the preserve of the theists, in their myriad variety, evil is a moral concept invented and defined by all individuals and groups, whether Consciously or unconsciously.