In that same period, Bartkus’ rhetoric on alternative social media sites was dark. “I would not acknowledge reproduction as a human right, but instead as a form of rape,” IndictEvolution wrote on Lemmy.World in July 2023. “I am also not bothered by infanticide as long as it is done humanely…”

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    Not “because of”. You have read that into the text, which actually says, “Something I love about…” which is also how someone might talk about an unexpected benefit they discover about something they already love.

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      I don’t see how “something I love about” necessarily implies that they also love other things, it could easily be read as only a sarcastic appreciation. I don’t consider myself ‘a big middle finger to nature and traditional culture’ and personally I don’t appreciate people who do see me that way.

      That said it’s still sad seeing someone clearly going through a lot blow themselves up for what amounts to nonsense philosophy instead of finding something meaningful to do.

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        I don’t see how “something I love about” necessarily implies that they also love other things, it could easily be read as only a sarcastic appreciation.

        It could be said that way, yes. There is an ambiguity. But usually it is used to indicate specifically that it isn’t the sole factor. I’m not saying he’s being an effective ally, or even that he’s trying to be an ally. I just think you misinterpreted to say his views on transgender people are solely based in rebellion against nature and tradition.

        I’m sorry it’s hurtful to you, in any case. I am also very disturbed.

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          I just think you misinterpreted to say his views on transgender people are solely based in rebellion against nature and tradition.

          I certainly wasn’t giving him the most charitable reading, nor did I care for his conclusions.

          Considering the very real threats out there it’s concerning seeing people latch onto nonsense philosophies.

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        Many of the trans people I know struggle with their dichotomous nature. They don’t necessarily see their natural body as something to be celebrated. I know that is far from universal among trans people but it’s something people often see from outside the culture looking in.

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          They don’t necessarily see their natural body as something to be celebrated.

          I said I don’t see being transgender as something unnatural or a ‘big middle finger’ to either nature or tradition. not liking your body doesn’t necessarily mean that correcting it is in opposition to ‘nature’

          Something like capitalism has been more of a ‘big middle finger’ to nature and traditional cultures than any other force in history, certainly more so than trans people. Humans have expressed being trans long before things like capitalism and ‘traditional’ family structures too.

          it’s just sad seeing people latch onto nonsense philosophy and self destruct pointlessly