• FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
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    Holy crap…yes. leash your cats for the love of all that is fuzzy.

    The anger people have when you tell them it’s neglect when you just let a cat roam free. It’s insanity. Your cat can easily just never come home or be found dead to many things, and they also destroy lots of wildlife and crap on people’s property with no respecting owner to clean up.

    No one would take this from dogs…so why cats? It’s literally for their safety and the safety of other animals…its mind boggling and the downvotrs prove it

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      The anger people have when you tell them it’s neglect when you just let a cat roam free. It’s insanity.

      If you want to see people loose their mind, suggest that the way we dominate these animals to please us is the root cause of all that suffering and neglect.

      *I live with a cat and am having beef for dinner. I’m a hypocrite, not PETA.

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      Here is a perspective from someone who has owned an inside/outside cat for the last 12 years. My cat is independent and resourceful and yes, contributes to ecodestruction by killing birds and mice occasionally. To me this is negligible compared to the ecodestruction of simply existing in a city. If I lived in nature I would not have a cat. I don’t think you can conflate my cat killing a pigeon twice a year in an urban environment with destroying the ecosystem.

      It’s also disengenuous to ignore the quality of life improvements of having a cat who is free to explore vs. one locked in an apartment all day. I recently moved and am now experiencing this and it sucks. I feel terrible for restricting her freedom and she is visibly less happy. If you think animals are sentient and have emotions, and you care about the environment, then none of what we are currently doing makes any sense.

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        I do <insert bad thing> already so I don’t need to avoid doing <insert other bad thing> because I already do <bad thing> even though the nature of my effect on the world is the sum of my behavior and I’m really bad at logic.

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          22 hours ago

          Yup, and I’m the only one with agency in the whole world. It’s all about me.

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              Ok I see my sarcasm was lost on you so let me try again. There is nothing ethical about pet ownership or industrial civilization. If we cared about the well being of pets we wouldn’t keep them, and if we cared about the well being of the planet we wouldn’t build cities or burn fossil fuels.

              I already have a cat. The above is moot for me. If I had to rethink this then maybe 12 years ago I would have made a different decision. At this point I am not going to euthenize my cat or blow up an oil pipeline. If you allow my cat agency then she should be allowed to explore her world and make her own decisions, just like the pigeons and rats that are forced to adapt to human civilization by eating garbage.

              Anyway she’s safely locked away and miserable now so none of this matters.

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        You are a human who thinks and cares about others and living creatures in nature, not a virtue signaler wanting points on the internet by shitting on cats. Thank you.

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      My neighbors had a skunk that lived in the garage. Her name was Petunia. The neighbors never got rid of her because she harmed no one and was never problemativc and “where else is she going to live we dont use the garage.” Her or one of her kids who we all assumed was Petunia lived there from at least 1978-2004 (RIP). Petunia literally controlled the block because she was very large. Despite the neighbor hood telling every newcomer about Petunia someone would think their cat can handle it and be surprised that a 15 lb/6kg skunk is in fact terrifying to kitties.

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        You know the reason it’s a feral cat, is because people let the cats roam free. It’s the result of people neglecting their pets and letting them roam to begin with.

        This a compounding issue and people are justifying loose feral cats, because they found a loose feral cat so it must remain feral.

        Barn cats with a job on a farm in the country are obviously a different story, my issue is more directed at the cats roaming in urban neighbourhoods, with no purpose/job.

        Picture your neighbourhood with feral dogs…you’d be annoyed/upset/scared when you come across one taking a massive dump on your lawn and it gets defensive about its territory. Cats are realistically no different but somehow socially accepted. It makes no sense.

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        I used to be a kennel worker, met thousands of cats over the years. Never once met a cat who did not adapt to being indoor only within a month