The staff position in the instance is fully go with the genocidal country, so unless you are ready to be pro israel, you should leave for another instance which doesn’t support genocide.
In short, the admins and mods adhere to german law (since this is a german instance) which prohibits that calling for the destruction of the state of Israel and relativation of the holocaust. Comments and posts doing this get deleted and some people think that was siding with Israel in a genocide.
Edit, since someone else shared a link to a post twisting everything, here’s the original statement.
The instance is not hosted in Germany. And yes, if you are banning people who attack israel when they are commiting a fucking genocide, then you are pro genocide.
Thanks. I mean even if we disregard where the admin lives, where a good amount of their users live, we’d have to talk about law in Austria, which is a bit different but not very far off. It’d still be illegal to call for violence against groups of people. And they also have something like a “Symbole-Gesetz” which lists Hamas.
And I mean the idea is a bit stupid. That law isn’t about protecting the circuit boards of the server. It’s about the people, so of course it has to be about the location of either the admins or users, or both and less so about the computer’s location.
Thanks. Yeah I remember reading something like that. Though, it wasn’t big news for me since I also live in that jurisdiction. Germany is a country, and as such it has it’s own laws which don’t always exactly match to what other countries do. For example here you aren’t allowed to publicly deny the holocaust, spread the war slogans of terrorist organizations or the nazis. That’s just forbidden. In other countries like the USA, you’ll have different exceptions to the First Amendment.
But since the admins are Germans and a large chunk of their userbase too. It’s going to be the german law that’s going to get them in trouble. And remember they do this for free as a service to us.
Arguably, a large part of the controversy is the notion that the feddit.org admins are citing the law as an excuse to shape the discussion much more broadly than said law actually requires.
Sure, I get that. I just can’t find any evidence of them actually doing things like that (overreaching past what’s mandated by law). So I think the notion isn’t rooted in reality. Other than that all I have is my experience of feddit.org being one of the nicer instances here on the network.
Many nazis at the time were “just following orders”, and that doesn’t make it better for them.
In this case, the law is shit, and just because it’s a law doesn’t mean it’s right. Critizicing israhell with how they are acting is the right thing to do. If they want to follow the law but they don’t agree with it, then just ban political talk in general.
Zionism is not judaism, zionism is a nazi movement, and the fact that many hebrews critizice zionism should tell you something about it.
No, you’re just wrong. I mean unless you live here, it’s not your call to make what we can and can not talk about. And I feel like you didn’t even get what it’s about. You’re perfectly fine to criticise Israel in Germany. We also do in fact discuss zionism and what random people on the internet say about that. If you scroll to the top and see what this post is about, you’d see that we actualy discuss the topic a lot on this Lemmy instance.
The staff position in the instance is fully go with the genocidal country, so unless you are ready to be pro israel, you should leave for another instance which doesn’t support genocide.
source? genuine question…
Their source is they made it the fuck up.
In short, the admins and mods adhere to german law (since this is a german instance) which prohibits that calling for the destruction of the state of Israel and relativation of the holocaust. Comments and posts doing this get deleted and some people think that was siding with Israel in a genocide.
Edit, since someone else shared a link to a post twisting everything, here’s the original statement.
The instance is not hosted in Germany. And yes, if you are banning people who attack israel when they are commiting a fucking genocide, then you are pro genocide.
doesn’t matter, its an instance for the D-A-CH Region that includes adhering to german law.
Thanks. I mean even if we disregard where the admin lives, where a good amount of their users live, we’d have to talk about law in Austria, which is a bit different but not very far off. It’d still be illegal to call for violence against groups of people. And they also have something like a “Symbole-Gesetz” which lists Hamas.
And I mean the idea is a bit stupid. That law isn’t about protecting the circuit boards of the server. It’s about the people, so of course it has to be about the location of either the admins or users, or both and less so about the computer’s location.
https://lemmy.world/post/29777347
This post sums it up very well
Thanks. Yeah I remember reading something like that. Though, it wasn’t big news for me since I also live in that jurisdiction. Germany is a country, and as such it has it’s own laws which don’t always exactly match to what other countries do. For example here you aren’t allowed to publicly deny the holocaust, spread the war slogans of terrorist organizations or the nazis. That’s just forbidden. In other countries like the USA, you’ll have different exceptions to the First Amendment.
But since the admins are Germans and a large chunk of their userbase too. It’s going to be the german law that’s going to get them in trouble. And remember they do this for free as a service to us.
Arguably, a large part of the controversy is the notion that the feddit.org admins are citing the law as an excuse to shape the discussion much more broadly than said law actually requires.
Sure, I get that. I just can’t find any evidence of them actually doing things like that (overreaching past what’s mandated by law). So I think the notion isn’t rooted in reality. Other than that all I have is my experience of feddit.org being one of the nicer instances here on the network.
Many nazis at the time were “just following orders”, and that doesn’t make it better for them.
In this case, the law is shit, and just because it’s a law doesn’t mean it’s right. Critizicing israhell with how they are acting is the right thing to do. If they want to follow the law but they don’t agree with it, then just ban political talk in general.
Zionism is not judaism, zionism is a nazi movement, and the fact that many hebrews critizice zionism should tell you something about it.
No, you’re just wrong. I mean unless you live here, it’s not your call to make what we can and can not talk about. And I feel like you didn’t even get what it’s about. You’re perfectly fine to criticise Israel in Germany. We also do in fact discuss zionism and what random people on the internet say about that. If you scroll to the top and see what this post is about, you’d see that we actualy discuss the topic a lot on this Lemmy instance.
Don’t feed the troll.
Sorry, I occasionally have a weird fetish with feeding trolls. I was just getting started. But yeah, I’m going to stop now.
Welcome to the club.