Yeah, I also absolutely hate the lighting. Everything is either way too dark or way too bright or somehow both at the same time. I remember seeing a trailer for one of the later seasons and the federation ships seem like they’d super uncomfortable to be on.
I think the difference is because Disco and Picard are serialized while SNW and LD are episodic.
On serialized Trek, if the writers get a bug up their asses to do a mirror universe storyline or a section 31 storyline, you’re stuck with that tedious bullshit for at least half a season. If episodic Trek has a stinkburger episode that everyone mocks for decades (Sub Rosa), the next week can give you a premise so beloved that they base a whole series on it (Lower Decks).
Episodic Trek can take more risks. I kinda miss the longer seasons for the same reason.
Yes, upon rewatching TNG, I realized that I might actually like less than half of the stories that much, but that still leaves so many stories I do like.
If I was inclined to like a discovery story to start with, it will wear out its welcome pretty soon because they drag it out so long.
Meh, there were a few times where the comedy could have probably taken more of a backseat than it did, but the comedy didn’t overall bother me that much. I did like that it was a more unpolished take on what life in Starfleet is like, and the comedy was the vehicle that that view was delivered through. I mean, take Shax and T’ana making it super uncomfortable to be roomed close to the holodecks; realistically, who isn’t going to get up to some freaky shit with tech like that? The live action shows kinda dance around it, but I like that Lower Decks was able to address it outright because it’s allowed to take itself less seriously.
theres a time and place for comedy but for a scifi should be kept to a minimum.
I think of all things The Orville demonstrates that on both sides - for a show whose premise is “Seth MacFarlane wants to be a TNG-era Star Trek captain” you can see more of his comedy at the start than afterward, presumably because it needed to be a Seth MacFarlane comedy to get funded and then not so much once the funding was secure.
The humour in The Orville was shockingly weak, but that doesn’t speak to sci-fi in general. Red Dwarf, Hitchhiker’s Guide, Galaxy Quest, Spaceballs, and Futurama are all great space based comedies.
Idk, I think Discovery just sucks.
Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks kick ass, though.
Edit: Discovery and Picard. Picard sucks ass, too. I just cannot force myself further than episode two.
I just gave picard another go and knocked it off but jeeeeeesus. So much nonsensical bullshit and how can you faff about so much with so few episodes.
Yeah, I also absolutely hate the lighting. Everything is either way too dark or way too bright or somehow both at the same time. I remember seeing a trailer for one of the later seasons and the federation ships seem like they’d super uncomfortable to be on.
I think the difference is because Disco and Picard are serialized while SNW and LD are episodic.
On serialized Trek, if the writers get a bug up their asses to do a mirror universe storyline or a section 31 storyline, you’re stuck with that tedious bullshit for at least half a season. If episodic Trek has a stinkburger episode that everyone mocks for decades (Sub Rosa), the next week can give you a premise so beloved that they base a whole series on it (Lower Decks).
Episodic Trek can take more risks. I kinda miss the longer seasons for the same reason.
Yes, upon rewatching TNG, I realized that I might actually like less than half of the stories that much, but that still leaves so many stories I do like.
If I was inclined to like a discovery story to start with, it will wear out its welcome pretty soon because they drag it out so long.
But how can this be? They are shoving so much fan service down your throat.
As we all know, after 2 bad seasons, fan service makes good show!
That’s fair.
Try Picard season three though, that was way better than seasons 1&2. :-)
No it wasn’t
I always understood that particular emoticon to mean the same thing as /s. Or mom emailed me…in 1997
I liked the first few minutes of Picard but nothing after.
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Meh, there were a few times where the comedy could have probably taken more of a backseat than it did, but the comedy didn’t overall bother me that much. I did like that it was a more unpolished take on what life in Starfleet is like, and the comedy was the vehicle that that view was delivered through. I mean, take Shax and T’ana making it super uncomfortable to be roomed close to the holodecks; realistically, who isn’t going to get up to some freaky shit with tech like that? The live action shows kinda dance around it, but I like that Lower Decks was able to address it outright because it’s allowed to take itself less seriously.
I think of all things The Orville demonstrates that on both sides - for a show whose premise is “Seth MacFarlane wants to be a TNG-era Star Trek captain” you can see more of his comedy at the start than afterward, presumably because it needed to be a Seth MacFarlane comedy to get funded and then not so much once the funding was secure.
The humour in The Orville was shockingly weak, but that doesn’t speak to sci-fi in general. Red Dwarf, Hitchhiker’s Guide, Galaxy Quest, Spaceballs, and Futurama are all great space based comedies.