So…… We got an alternative to Switzerland as a country? Historically I always thought they took digital privacy seriously. But it seems tides are changing.
We got any other GDPR countries as good as Switzerland? How about the Netherlands?
Or is this gonna turn into a game of finding a country that just doesn’t care about digital surveillance?
Our elected representatives are way too afraid of their citizens (which many of them would not mind if they could change those ‘citizens’ into powerless ‘subjects’), and they’ve become obsessed with the idea of surveilling our every move. An idea that has been very actively encouraged by an industry that is more than happy to sell them the required surveillance technology for a lot of money. Money always wins, freedom (which can’t stand without privacy) is screwed.
So, I already made up my mind upon the quick disappearance of any online privacy, here in the EU. The cloud I’m using (for its full encryption) won’t be able to stand against the law (and it should not). So, the moment they introduce a law to force backdoors into encryption I’ve already decided to quit using any form of online storage and as much online services as I can (one of the reasons I I went back to reading printed books—yep, I’m that paranoid save that It’s not being paranoid at all).
Those wannabe EU dictators, worrying so much about our own well-being (as no one in their right mind would express any doubt about their true motivation) they can go funk themselves.
Well, I totally understand you when it comes to using local storage and reading printed books (having physical books on bookshelf looks cool) but from what I remember only some countries decided vote for this idea
You’re right, but once a few have that law the EU is a Union (and most countries are not against controlling us), so I would not hold my breath (posted from France, so you know ;)
Same for me, if most decide that then first thing would be downloading all stuff from my clouds and removing all files online. Kinda sad to see that from one side eu tries to make ai providers unable to collect our data but eu doesn’t like us to have freedom and privacy in the internet
I did not say that.
I said the central EU is trying - almost literally on a weekly basis - to require companies like Signal and Whatsapp to replace their end-to-end encryption with a backdoored one, and the excuses they throw up every time is “pedophiles” and “terrorists”. I am quite aware Switzerland is trying that as well, hence the announcement by Proton to leave the country if the government keeps hanging on to that dumb idea.
Proton is in IMHO blowing a lot of hot air. Where do they want to go? BTW, do you have any articles showing that the EU wants to acquire Signal or WhatsApp (???) to end end-to-end encryption and replace it with a backdoors one - just to prove that you are not spreading FUD?
VPNs - and even Tor - can be compromised, especially by government cybersecurity agencies, although attacking Tor may require more resources. Some VPN providers, even those that charge for their services, have experienced significant security breaches (just search for terms like “VPN loopholes” or “VPN hack” on Google). Free VPNs are generally even less reliable, and there are rumors that some may function as honeypots. Tor, while offering stronger anonymity, tends to be slower - routing traffic through multiple nodes adds considerable latency.
So…… We got an alternative to Switzerland as a country? Historically I always thought they took digital privacy seriously. But it seems tides are changing.
We got any other GDPR countries as good as Switzerland? How about the Netherlands?
Or is this gonna turn into a game of finding a country that just doesn’t care about digital surveillance?
Be careful with any EU country… there’s a weekly attempt to introduce backdoored encryption, because “pedophiles” and “terrorists”.
But only in some countries, not all of them accepted it
They would not stop there.
Our elected representatives are way too afraid of their citizens (which many of them would not mind if they could change those ‘citizens’ into powerless ‘subjects’), and they’ve become obsessed with the idea of surveilling our every move. An idea that has been very actively encouraged by an industry that is more than happy to sell them the required surveillance technology for a lot of money. Money always wins, freedom (which can’t stand without privacy) is screwed.
So, I already made up my mind upon the quick disappearance of any online privacy, here in the EU. The cloud I’m using (for its full encryption) won’t be able to stand against the law (and it should not). So, the moment they introduce a law to force backdoors into encryption I’ve already decided to quit using any form of online storage and as much online services as I can (one of the reasons I I went back to reading printed books—yep, I’m that paranoid save that It’s not being paranoid at all).
Those wannabe EU dictators, worrying so much about our own well-being (as no one in their right mind would express any doubt about their true motivation) they can go funk themselves.
Well, I totally understand you when it comes to using local storage and reading printed books (having physical books on bookshelf looks cool) but from what I remember only some countries decided vote for this idea
You’re right, but once a few have that law the EU is a Union (and most countries are not against controlling us), so I would not hold my breath (posted from France, so you know ;)
Same for me, if most decide that then first thing would be downloading all stuff from my clouds and removing all files online. Kinda sad to see that from one side eu tries to make ai providers unable to collect our data but eu doesn’t like us to have freedom and privacy in the internet
Honestly there needs to be aggressive crackdowns on pedo-smearers
You think in Switzerland “pedophiles” and Co. are not surveilled 🤣😂? Bit naive thinking, you have.
I did not say that.
I said the central EU is trying - almost literally on a weekly basis - to require companies like Signal and Whatsapp to replace their end-to-end encryption with a backdoored one, and the excuses they throw up every time is “pedophiles” and “terrorists”. I am quite aware Switzerland is trying that as well, hence the announcement by Proton to leave the country if the government keeps hanging on to that dumb idea.
Proton is in IMHO blowing a lot of hot air. Where do they want to go? BTW, do you have any articles showing that the EU wants to acquire Signal or WhatsApp (???) to end end-to-end encryption and replace it with a backdoors one - just to prove that you are not spreading FUD?
The alternative is to leave cloud services, use GnuPG to encrypt your mail on your device and use a VPN / TOR for any interaction with the net.
VPNs - and even Tor - can be compromised, especially by government cybersecurity agencies, although attacking Tor may require more resources. Some VPN providers, even those that charge for their services, have experienced significant security breaches (just search for terms like “VPN loopholes” or “VPN hack” on Google). Free VPNs are generally even less reliable, and there are rumors that some may function as honeypots. Tor, while offering stronger anonymity, tends to be slower - routing traffic through multiple nodes adds considerable latency.