Unfortunately the entire market looks like this. You have to normalize the graph against the S&P to see how they’re really doing.
Thank you - I have acquired new knowledge.
Adobe’s name is mud right now.
I wish you a beautiful downfall Abode
I’d rather it be really ugly but I’ll take whatever gets us there.
Here is a list of foss Adobe related stuff:
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Kdenlive
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Gimp
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Krita
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Okular or SummatraPDF
Is there one for aftereffects?
Yes - pirated aftereffects.
I use Shotcut for video editing. Haven’t seen that mentioned here yet.
One posted by someone recently
I have never seen that penguin logo in my life.
It’s Linux.
Isn’t it supposed to be Tux?
I think they just looked up “Linux logo” and just looked for an icon that matched the same theme as the windows and MacOS icons.
I’ve seen that icon before but idk where. Probably from some icon pack maybe?
Hence my use of “that” not “a.”
Blender 3D Artist here:
If you already use Blender and want Inkscape-like functionality, grease pencil has gotten REALLY impressive! Worth checking out! But let’s talk about materials real quick:
I personally got burned when I dropped hard-earned cash on Substance and they sold out from under us.
It might not be 1:1 for the most powerful features found in Alegorithmic’s traitorware, but the PBR Painter add-on has been AWESOME for painting materials in Blender.
There are some other add-ons for materials and advanced effects too.
(For designing, I’m glad fo see Material Maker mentioned! It’s impressive and legit! I hope that project goes far!)
I honestly think a majority of that stuff is totally doable in Blender right now, add-ons just make it easier and/or a bit more efficient, and these devs are worth supporting.
Armorpaint looked pretty cool, but is it still being developed? Seems like it’s been awfully quiet, which is a shame because it seemed very promising!
It’s sad because Substance was the ONE time I relented and said “Hey, maybe this commercial software will be really worth it.” Fool me once.
I’m still using the 2018 Substance, which is the last one for which there was a proper license (which I have). Then Adobe bought the Allegorithmict and turned that suite into a subscription application.
Still works fine and apparently the software hasn’t significantly improved ever since it turned into a subscription.
By the way, cheers for mentioning PBR Painter - I added it to my list of possible replacements.
Where Fl :(
Some poor pickings for acrobat there. Why no okular?
Honestly, depending on what you need it for, there may not be an alternative. I’ve tried a bunch over the years, and most don’t handle overprint, don’t have colour management settings, don’t know about the more complex shading types or type 3 fonts, etc.
There are specialised software packages that do know about these, but they are closed source and expensive, and then ignore other parts of the PDF spec like 3D or animation.
Acrobat is awful bloatware that somehow still lacks basic functionality - but it’s the only one I know of that covers pretty much all of PDF.
I have wondered this for a while, what is it you do that requires such intensive editing of PDFs?
Both at work and at home PDF is sort of a “read only format” for me.
I get it for things that should not be edited (e.g. invoices) and export it myself for things that should not be edited (e.g. finished documentation). The only “editing” of PDF files that I rarely do is filling out PDF forms or signing a PDF, which most readers can do.
PDF, as it evolved from PostScript, is the de facto standard for most print jobs. Commercial print (think magazines and flyers), packaging, large format (e.g. billboards), books, many textile prints, etc. They all use PDF extensively. And very often those PDFs are print technically garbage. Fixing that in the original application is either not possible or, more frequently, requires knowledge the designers simply don’t have. So the print shop’s prepress department does it in PDF directly.
I think it is better to focus on foss when you can. This is more of a list of alternative companies to Adobe.
Cool graphic though
Foss has the most standout icon
Kdenlive
Blender has a really good video editor built in.
Kdenlive is surprisingly good from my limited experience with it. But blender can do basically everything so that’s also an option.
Blender can do video editing but I wouldn’t recommend using Blender unless you are already using other Blender features.
Kdenlive is a proper video editor and is actually designed for purely video editing. Just because you can do it with Blender doesn’t mean you should.
please don’t edit videos in Blender, that sounds like masochism
it’s not open source but i will always recommend Davinci Resolve, by far the best video editing sodtware i’ve used and it’s free! (well 95% of it is, it’s fully functional and outstanding without paying a cent but if you want some extra presets especially for the colour grading stage then you gotta pay. how i see it is that it’s free software with a few built in ads for an effects package)
I think Kdenlive is about the same as Davinci Resolve at this point but I’m no where near a video editing expect so I could be wrong.
Excel probably does too.
I do all my video editing in emacs
Blender is just the most amazing peace of software I know and I actually enjoy using it. Unless I try to do retopology again. Screw that all the way to hell!
100%. Retopology kinda drives me up the wall because I always seem to end up with mismatched loops and stuff.
One day I’ll save up and support Retopoflow, but in the meantime, check out a new fork of Poly Quilt! it’s freely available in Blender’s extension repository!
I see a lot of people say it works a lot like Maya’s poly-build/paint/something(?) function, and a lot of people would say they import Blender meshes back into Maya just for retopology, so that sounds like quite high praise if this works similarly.
Looking forward to trying it myself. :)
I don’t know if retopo will ever be fun, but maybe at least it won’t be miserable? Hahaha.
By chance, any idea how either of them compare to Final Cut Pro for basic video cleanup?
I use FCP for cleaning up instructional YT videos (cutting out flubs and flowing back together) but have been looking for a viable Linux alternative.
Both would be fine options tbh. I personally find the blender one to be functional but a bit clunky since it’s clearly not the main focus though so it’s probably the lesser of the two options if that’s all you’re doing
Was going to say this. Unlike Gimp, Photopea’s UI is extremely similar to Photoshop so it’s much more intuitive to use if you come from that background.
Not foss but still an alternative
The (attempted) Figma acquisition announcement promptly led to emerge FOSS alternative of collaborative prototyping tool too.
Also I want to mention Graphite.rs for graphic design. It aims for vector/raster image with procedural customization capability and in early development. Last I checked they don’t do much outreach and having feedback helps too.
Anything using peer2panda?
I know the gnome project was making a p2p collaborative editor at one point.
Gimp really shouldn’t be on anyone’s “alternate to” lists.
It’s so bad.
Affinity, on the hand… it’s pretty great. For now, at least.
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Yeah fucking tank adobe you piece of shit
invest in wings!
My guess is that Canva and Figma are 90% of the reason why people are no longer confident in Adobe as a company.
Figma-balls xD gottem
(I have no idea what these are plz explain)
Figma is a vector drawing app that was originally for UX design (an Adobe XD competitor), but they just added a bunch of graphic design tools that compete with Adobe Illustrator.
Canva does a lot of raster and vector image editing that originally targeted people that were not design pros, but they’ve been adding a lot of features that allow people to make some professional quality stuff stuff with ease.
All in all, both companies are growing into the spaces Adobe dominated. If you were a UX designer who needed to occasionally use Illustrator for a more detailed illustration, maybe you no longer need that Adobe CS license.
Canva also owns Affinity, which is a direct competitor to some of adobe’s main offering.
This had better not leave to further enshitification of the PDF format, I will snap if signing government forms gets any worse.
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now we need a photoshop equivelent, and i mean all of photoshop’s features in one piece of software, not 3 combined
Affinity, Photopea, etc. There are a few.
Figma is a prototyping app to make semi interactive demos of user interfaces.
What’s good about it, is that it is really easy to export the desings to be used by a mobile developer - you drop the part where you build an interface out of pictures, it is the interface from the start.
Canva and Figma are 90% of the reason
How long before Adobe buys them… they did it macromedia and all their other competitors. Anti-trust laws, if they were working, would have shut down Abobe decades ago.
They tried to buy Figma and failed due to anti monopoly legislation
Holy shit I can’t believe that kind of consumer protection still exists in the US
IIRC it was the British regulator that blocked it. The EU and eventually US ones issued similar statements following the UK block and then the deal was abandoned
They tried to buy Figma, but getting past the regulators was too hard. It was clearly a play to monopolize UX design just like the did with graphic design.
Idk, i work at a print shop and half of my work day is spent fixing dog shit files people send me from Canva. It’s the scourge of pretty much every printer out there.
I worked in print before Canva. They were going to send you shit files with or without that tool. Most tried to send word docs or power points so Canva is probably a step up.
Just because people have the tools to do graphic design, does not make them good at graphic design.
That used to be my trade. What’s wrong with Canva files?
Nothing is vectored, everything is outlines and masks on masks on masks. So when someone sends me a letter sized document without the bleed (becase it never has bleed), i have 2 dozen groups i have to sift through to try and add bleed as best i can. Nothing is print ready, even from “professionals” sending me their ad copy. Canva is designed aroind web, so when amateurs use it for printing, it compounds all the problems, and Canvas instructions for designing for print are next to useless, even if the customer somehow managed to read them.
About a million years ago I worked for a company that used a product. About 2 or 3 hours of every day was dealt with inefficiencies and issues with the product.
One day I got kind of fed up with it I wrote them a long detailed support ticket of the worst grievances. I mentioned that I was using their product in a professional capacity and that if they made these changes it would go a long way towards making their product more marketable to everyone else that was using it in a professional capacity.
I didn’t hear anything else about it for a good three or four months. One day I got a message back thanking me for my request. They sent me a $50 gift certificate and a T-shirt, and claimed the update later that month would be a significant improvement to everything I listed.
They absolutely nailed it and I now only spent 15 minutes a day dealing with the product.
As much as I would hate the idea of helping a multi-billion dollar company for free, It might be worth mentioning their shortcomings as a professional printer, If they send you a request up to the project management and devs it might make your life better.
do people not use the templates with safe zones that i’ve seen every single printing service provide? even if they can’t figure out how to put a pdf in Cava, they could at least draw their own lines where they kinda should be
But there are just so many good reasons!
Still too high!
Why did Adobe start tanking after the start of the year?
Proposed 39% tariff on each adobe plugin that’s imported.
Ahahah oh my god, they’re lucky they’re industry standard…
… Didn’t everything?
They are down significantly harder than the S&P 500, despite logically being in a market that shouldn’t be as vulnerable to things like tariffs.
Am I missing something? What does Blender have that overlaps with an Adobe product?
I think it did back when Adobe was actually relevant in animation
Now days all the big studios have there own custom stuff and the community uses Blender
What does Blender have that overlaps with an Adobe product
I ditched premiere for the Video editor in Bender, and you can use Blender in a lot of ways just like After Effects, if you really know it, then its a lot more powerful than AE.
