The defense doesn’t have to prove he didn’t do it. The prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. He can be found not guilty by a variety of mechanisms, still have factually done it, but because the prosecution couldn’t verifiably prove it, get released. He can still be a symbol either way.
Frankly if I were on a jury this would be enough alone. I could not vote guilty if I knew this had happened. That is more than enough Reasonable Doubt. Not that this jury is going to be able to deliberate or anything. They’re going to be bribed and or threatened so heavily that they’re going to convict no matter what.
Definitely. They’re claiming that a McDonald’s worker called the cops on a nondescript (well, kinda attractive) white guy? A hundred Luigis eat there every day, and the “Bartender that remembers someone from three days ago” is an artifact of cop dramas.
When I worked in fast food, I called the customers “wallets with feet”. Jeffrey Dahmer and Tim McVeigh could have come in together and I wouldn’t have noticed.
And risk getting the case thrown out over all the other ways they’re pushing their limits?
I doubt it.
Parallel Construction works if you can prove it by legal means. They wouldn’t have needed to risk getting the whole thing nullified if they didn’t bother with his Miranda Rights or getting caught planting evidence on him. Parallel Construction needs precision, and nothing NYPD is doing sounds precise in the slightest.
Enough people are thirsty for him that he can ride the notoriety and social cache for years, regardless. Of the people most into him, most don’t care that much for the judicial system regardless, so the court’s decision won’t matter that much.
His views are oddly right wing and I don’t think he’s the sort to lead a movement, so he’ll probably fade into obscurity in the general public.
I don’t think so, because then he’s an innocent person who was screwed over by the medical insurance industry, who then had his life derailed again in the name of “justice” for a dead insurance executive.
It should be the default assumption, even before all of the police fuckery was brought to light. He’s innocent until proven guilty.
If he did do it is the hypothetical, since nothing has been proven and there’s more and more evidence that makes it look like a frame job. Don’t take the police account at face value ever, they routinely lie to cover for misconduct.
If it’s found that he didn’t do it, will he get less popular because then he’s not based anymore?
The defense doesn’t have to prove he didn’t do it. The prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did. He can be found not guilty by a variety of mechanisms, still have factually done it, but because the prosecution couldn’t verifiably prove it, get released. He can still be a symbol either way.
Frankly if I were on a jury this would be enough alone. I could not vote guilty if I knew this had happened. That is more than enough Reasonable Doubt. Not that this jury is going to be able to deliberate or anything. They’re going to be bribed and or threatened so heavily that they’re going to convict no matter what.
I’d say maybe some would think less of him, but I think he’d still deserve support for getting railroaded.
My theory from the start is that they knew it was him, but found out via illegal means so they had to frame him some other way
Definitely. They’re claiming that a McDonald’s worker called the cops on a nondescript (well, kinda attractive) white guy? A hundred Luigis eat there every day, and the “Bartender that remembers someone from three days ago” is an artifact of cop dramas.
When I worked in fast food, I called the customers “wallets with feet”. Jeffrey Dahmer and Tim McVeigh could have come in together and I wouldn’t have noticed.
This is most likely the case. He may be able to beat that charge, but juries are notoriously stupid.
And risk getting the case thrown out over all the other ways they’re pushing their limits?
I doubt it.
Parallel Construction works if you can prove it by legal means. They wouldn’t have needed to risk getting the whole thing nullified if they didn’t bother with his Miranda Rights or getting caught planting evidence on him. Parallel Construction needs precision, and nothing NYPD is doing sounds precise in the slightest.
Yeah, of course.
Enough people are thirsty for him that he can ride the notoriety and social cache for years, regardless. Of the people most into him, most don’t care that much for the judicial system regardless, so the court’s decision won’t matter that much.
His views are oddly right wing and I don’t think he’s the sort to lead a movement, so he’ll probably fade into obscurity in the general public.
I don’t think so, because then he’s an innocent person who was screwed over by the medical insurance industry, who then had his life derailed again in the name of “justice” for a dead insurance executive.
If doing some real heavy lifting here. Assume “if” he didn’t do it the same things would be happening right now as if he had.
It was more of a hypothetical.
It should be the default assumption, even before all of the police fuckery was brought to light. He’s innocent until proven guilty.
If he did do it is the hypothetical, since nothing has been proven and there’s more and more evidence that makes it look like a frame job. Don’t take the police account at face value ever, they routinely lie to cover for misconduct.