I think we agree in general, except I don’t think they always believe they are being funny - but even know it isn’t to some people. I could make a joke about a black man or a Jew in a bar, but if I tell that joke to a black man or a Jew the intent is no longer to be funny even though I might still think it is a great joke. It is like an insult with a baked in excuse. These men are evil and not the brightest, they do stupid things; but they are not ignorant fools and I don’t think they are blind to the harm they do - I think they know how hurtful their ‘jokes’ are and like harming these people. It’s not just trying to be funny while lacking a sense of humour.