• Tinidril@midwest.social
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    Got it. Where did he come out specifically in favor of this one specific provision?

    Let me turn it around since the opposing claim is that he worked with Republicans to soften the bill. Where did he come out specifically against it? Finding clips of Biden back then is near impossible with all the results that come up from his presidency, and I honestly don’t care enough to keep digging.

    Yeah, I’ll make sure not to go back in time to 2005 and elect him for anything back then.

    Is he running for something now? I hope you are aware that we aren’t talking about a current or future Democratic candidate for anything.

    Now they’re getting significantly better.

    Biden was among the most conservative Democrats in congress. As president he was one of the furthest left office holders in the party. Biden got way better in the context of the Democrats. I don’t see Democrats as a group getting better at all, with rare exceptions that the establishment does everything they can manage to suppress. You Don’t Hate The Democrats Enough.

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      Let me turn it around since the opposing claim is that he worked with Republicans to soften the bill. Where did he come out specifically against it? Finding clips of Biden back then is near impossible with all the results that come up from his presidency, and I honestly don’t care enough to keep digging.

      Okay so you have literally no idea whether he even ever expressed any specific approval for the part of the bill you’re blaming him for being more responsible for than any other US senator. He didn’t write it, he didn’t make that amendment, and he supported some other parts in debate. But you definitely know he’s most responsible. Out of everyone.

      Good to know.

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        Okay so you have literally no idea whether he even ever expressed any specific approval for the part of the bill

        Dude. I’ve put up with your demands for evidence and proved you wrong several times. I’m not your fucking man servant and I figure at this point it’s your turn to prove that he opposed that particular section of a bill he championed through congress. The bill did what I said it did, and he backed it. If you think he opposed that section, then I think it’s on you to show that me made some effort to fix it.

        But you definitely know he’s most responsible. Out of everyone.

        Three prominent Democrats pushed the bill through congress, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, and Hillary Clinton. Of the three, only Joe Biden ended up voting for the final bill. That’s about as much of a smoking gun as your ever going to find.