• Tb0n3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1724·
    2 days ago

    Certainly that makes it okay for his dad to run over a random retiree because he was angry, right?

      • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        735·
        2 days ago

        Unfortunately, most of the cases that people latch on to as unfair killings turn out to be completely justified. People yell and scream the day after and then when the body came footage shows that the guy was trying to kill a cop everybody just quietly forgets.

        Also, have you forgotten the saying an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind? Killing somebody because they’re related to somebody that hurt you is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

        • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
          272·
          1 day ago

          Second part I agree with you, first part no, you’re entirely in the wrong about that.

          Most of the time it turns out it looks very clearly like the cops just murdered someone for no reason, or escalated a situation to the point where there was going to be a violent confrontation while they had a gun, and that’s in the rare situations where the cops conduct is actually caught on video.

          I agree that the random cop directing traffic probably didn’t deserve to die, but I also disagree with you that that makes the dad a piece of shit. The dad is human, and from watching that video at full speed, it looks an awful lot like that cop just decided to unload his clip into that guy’s son and use the gun as a flimsy pretext.

          Even if he did genuinely fear for his life, that fear might have come about because of the fear mongering training that police departments actively choose to give their officers, which objectively results in worse policing and more civilians deaths. The repeated non investigations into police escalation, police violence, and police abuse, leave people feeling that they have no rational recourse.

          When you systemically hurt people and they don’t feel that justice is served, they will eventually respond with violence. The dad’s reaction may have been unjustified and may even prove unproductive in furthering his goals, but it’s also an inevitable human reaction to the inhuman system of American policing.

          The reality and unpopular opinion, is that both of these deaths are the inevitable result of American handgun culture, where it’s normal to carry around point and click death machines. In most countries, some random kid who may or may not be stealing a car isn’t going to have a gun so it likely won’t escalate to this, the cops chasing the kids aren’t going to be pissing their pants at the prospect of them having a gun, and if a cop does gun him down it’s going to be a lot harder to justify.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      73·
      2 days ago

      Ah yes, the oppressor was being polite with someone else so let’s just let him keep doing oppressor shit. /s

      These cops are basically an occupying military that we’ve been socialized into believing are our protectors! As long as they’re wearing the uniform, they’re doing oppressor shit and are therefore valid targets for community defense.

      • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        13·
        22 hours ago

        The best evidence we have of a police free society was CHAZ and it took a week for warlords to take over.

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          5·
          21 hours ago

          Yeah and now some of the warlords put on blue uniforms and torture the populace. Others wear camo and bomb civilians in foreign lands. Some even hold all resources in the world hostage as they and their minions systematically destroy the planet. Cops don’t prevent the warlords from taking over, they ensure that the warlords who already have taken over don’t have to personally intimidate their subjects into “”“peace”“”.

          CHAZ

          As discussed in this retrospective by Black Rose, this demonstrates the need for community self-defense, not the police! The police are the very last people on Earth who need to be called in situations like these!